Most accurate .50bmg
Can anyone here on GB advise me on what standard production .50bmg is the most accurate? I know there are other forums that deal with this subject, but I tend to trust the views on GB because there seems to be a lot of unbiased knowledge here. What I'm looking for is the most accurate single shot target rifle currently available. I have narrowed my choices to the McBros, the Barrett and the LAR Grizzly. Also from what I hear, the only scopes worth putting on a .50bmg are the Nightforce and the Leupold MK4.
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Being that I just sold my Armalite AR50, that is what I prefer, and for the $, I think its the best.
But I would say that McBros are the top of the line, and you pay for it.
EDM Windrunner is also a good piece that can really be customized out, as long as you got the $.
Before buying I shot and tryed out just about everyone on the market.
I hate breechloaders!...Semi's burn your pocketbook bigtime...
Again the AR50, I feel, is the best gun for the $.
Walte0 -
Darrell,
If you limit it to strictly production rifles then it would have to be the McBros hands down, except that the McBros is a semi-custom type rifle whereas the others aren't for the most part.
If you just go by your statement of the "most accurate single shot target rifle currently available", it would still be the McBros which I believe is the best (U.S) single shot receiver for this class of rifle. It's only when you step down from this cartridge that you get a choice of 8 or more great custom receivers.
Bat seems to have a new .50 cal receiver as well but I have no exerience with it.
http://www.batmachine.com/
Also the LRT-3 50 CALIBER from the former Prairie Gun Works, now PGW DEFENCE TECHNOLOGIES INC. I know both of these men that make up this company. They are terrific gunsmiths and world class gentlemen as well. Take a minute to look at the website:
http://www.pgwdti.com/id16.htm
Both of these companies will build you a great rifle but I think that you can do just as good or even a little better price-wise if you or your gunsmith order the parts and build the rifle. That way you get the selection of barrels, triggers, scope bases and some of the other goodies that are available today. Remember to research and choose a qualified gunsmith and be sure to research the type and style of reamer that you need for a competition chamber. There are a ton of variations. By using your choice of gunsmiths, you get to help in the design process of the rifle before the building gets going. It's a part of the process that I don't think people should miss out on.
The top barrels for .50 BMG in my mind are Lothar Walther and Lilja. Stocks are usually limited to McMillan but you should look into:
http://www.scopeusout.com/
Bill Shehane is a great guy and a long range competitor.
http://richardscustomrifles.com/
Richard can build a super looking correctly laminated stock, not the plywood garbage that is currently too available.
http://www.robertsoncomposites.com/htmlfiles800/RobertsonComposites800.html
Ask them about availability.
Let us know what you decide!
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Clone, do you mind my asking why you sold your Armalite? I have seen the AR-30 rifles and I own several AR-10's, so I know Armalite quality is good. The action would make a good basis for a .50BMG rifle, but they dont sell those as a seperate item as far as I know.
I have thought about building a rifle from the ground up starting with a bare reciever. I have about $5,000.00 to spend on the rifle alone, so I feel I could go all out if I pick that road. I have seen several .50 recievers for sale here on GB, but they would require heat treating of some critical parts and that is something I just wouldnt trust to a local gunsmith with his propane torch and a bucket of water! If I can find a reliable heat treater that is familiar with guns, I'll give it a try.
I do like the benchrest type rifles as well as some of the bullpup designs. After looking at all the websites that you guys have provided, I think I'll try to see about building a rifle from the ground up with an LAR Grizzly action, Hart barrel and Nightforce/NXS scope,that is, if I can find a good heat treater and someone that is familiar with .50 BMG rifles to put it all together. Should that fail, I'll go with the McBros similar to the one pictured on Dan Lilja's website. Colonel Mustard just looks soooo cooool!
http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/50calibre/mcbros_50_bmg_action.htm
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I belive that Armalite will sell the reciver by itself.
I put off buying the AR50 after about 3 yrs of looking at everything on the market.
For the value of dollars spent verses the accuracy, the AR50 filled the bill perfectly.
Sure you can spend a Gazillon dollars on a 50bmg.
But resell on a custom built rifle, can be a tuffie.
As no one likes what you like, thus you will lose $ on the resale, latter on.
So, I settled on the AR50, the Shark muzzle break is the best in the business. Then you add in the AR50 bolt that weighs in around 6 lbs, and the gun itself being tested and proven at pressures over 50,000 psi. And the overall design is one of the better ones on the market.
Sold the complete package with M60 bi-pod, Armalite monopod, scope & rings, and a Bagmaster canvas carrying bag, with 200 rds of ammo for $3,200. It sold within 3 days!, Money lost "ZERO"......
Had no problems shooting 1,000 meters and hitting a smurf 8 out of 10 times with a cheapo Millet 3x24x55mm lens.
I'm not that great of a shot either, being 54yrs old, bad eye sight etc.
Although most of my shooting was 500m or less, at 300m, could get 1"groups!
Reason for selling - I buy guns for the fun of shooting, once I get bored with them, I sell them off.
Then buy something else to play with, new toy!
With the AR50 and its muzzle break, the recoil is like shooting a .223, wish I could say that for the others.
And with the low recoil you can use a cheaper scope, instead of those designed for 50bmgs without a good recoil system. Which tears the hell out of a high dollar scope.
If you look at a McBros, your looking at a good $7,500 - $10,000 piece, once you put on a good quality scope, for fully outfit an AR50 for around $3,000.
Either one will still make the same hole at the same distance, it just depends on how much cash you want to burn.
Walte0 -
McBro 50 hands down. 0
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