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  • ern98
    Surplus Mausers are great fun. To some one make or another is vastly better then others. To my way of thinking the best quality for the lest money is the way to go. The Check Mausers run the gambit from near new to well trashed. Most of the cheap Turks start at well trashed and get worse. Many of the M48s are aresenal reconditioned and are fine shooters. But the M48s are post WWII commie made rifles of varing quality. The 24/47 Yugos are prewar M1924 rifles that were reconfigured in 1947 and are for the most part some of the best value for your money out there. Still both the M48 and 24/47 Yugo are not the standard Mauser 98 action, they are what is referred to as the intermediate length. So as long as you don't want to, in some future time, sporterize the rifle to a 30-06 or a magnum case then there should not be any problem. If sporterizing is an issue buy the best Check Burno VZ-24 that you can find. Have fun......
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  • rimfire72
    The Czech Brno's are generally considered to be the best made 98 actions. If you want to sporterize this is the way to go, Aim Surplus has some with scrubbed receivers for 139.95. If you want to leave as is and just shoot for fun the M48 is your best buy. You can find them on several websites for 99.95. Either way,make sure to strip the rifle down and clean off ALL the cosmoline. Corrosive ammo is not that big a deal. Immediately after shooting just run some patches soaked with Windex or any type of ammonia based cleaner through the bore and wipe down the bolt with same. Then just clean as you would a normal rifle. Aim has some good deals on Romanian surplus 8mm.(380rd cans for 32.95 or 2+cans @ 29.95ea)aimsurplus.com

    Also you will find a lot of info at surplusrifle.com ,including complete step by step disassembly and reassembly instructions.Check out the forums there and ask any questions you may have.

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  • sandwarrior
    Like Ern said...lots of fun. I have quite a collection going and have done it pretty inexpensively. The ones you have mentioned are good but, there are other calibers out there once you get going that are fun to try also. Argentino 1909's, Brazilian 1908's, Chilean, Venzuelan, 7mm Mausers and 7.65x53(.311 diameter). For just blasting I would recommend getting a Yugo M48. Look for one with matching bolt and receiver serial numbers.
    You can get Turk ammo for relatively cheap, about 9 cents a round. Cleaning it like mentioned above will give pretty good accuracy for a long time. For better accuracy I have used some 170 Yugo ammo that is slower than dirt but hits the same hole quite often( mine is drilled and tapped and has a 24 power scope on mine.) I handload for mine and it has produced several sub -.5 MOA groups. ...the barrel was nearly new when I got it. I also have an M48 that has no rifling left and plan on making it into a 6mm Rem. Great rifles to build on or just play with.....good luck.

    I thought should say what Iconoclast said for me. Reloading this so far runs me between 25-40 cents per round. Not near as cheap as milsurp for blasting. but accurate. again, good luck
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  • codenamepaul
    Don't want to hijack but I have a Serb Mauser (has the same crest as Mitchell's) with a 1922 date stamp. Any idea what model this is? I believe they are calling it an M-48


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  • gskyhawk
    I picked up a M48 just last month for 100 +S&H , just yesterday i took a little road trip to a place that was selling 1942 turk ammo for $45 /700 rounds , i got a whole case (still sealed) for 94.95 (darn tax ) I tell ya is was pretty neat opening up a crate that was 63 years old , the banding was pretty rusted up but the tin in side was in perfect condition and the ammo looks like new , plan on shooting some of it this morning [:D]
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  • Iconoclast
    sharpshooter, of course N/C 8x57 is available from many commercial sources, but the price will be a *lot* higher than the surplus military ammo which is almost certainly corrosive, regardless of the nation of origin. This cartridge has not been used as the primary military chambering anywhere for decades. There are some post WW2 loadings which may be less corrosive or possibly N/C, but that stuff, like the later N/C .30-06 out of CMP, has been the first to sell. If you want to shoot this cartridge cheaply, you will need to follow the corrosive primed cleaning procedures. You can, of course, load your own for substantial savings over commercial factory N/C ammo, but you will still be paying far more per shot than you will with the milsurp.

    "There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain)
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  • Randy Smith
    I bought a Yugo M48... virtually a new rifle and it shoots like it. I bought mildly corrosive 8mm ammo from www.jandcsales.com that is excellent.
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  • MIKE WISKEY
    I HAVE THREE OF THESE UP FOR AUCTION NOW, TWO EXC COND. & MATCHING, ONE NEW.JUST DO A SEARCH ON MY G.B. NAME
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  • stankemp
    I obtained a Yugo for the express purpose of shooting competition mil rifle matches with it.
    Purchased a lot of stripper clip mil 8 mm ammo and went to the match.
    Those last 20 rounds (slow prone) made me wonder why the war went on so long. I haven't shot it since my shoulder healed.
    As for recoil, I can take some (my project is the 505-460 Kemp) but plinking or competition with the 8 mm is nasty.
    I now shoot a 7.5 K31 Swiss in place of the Mauser for the matches.
    Good luck and tie a a bag of plastic peanuts to your shoulder.
    Stan
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  • modoc
    Prone shooting is an art unto itself.Laying directly behind the rifle gives you a terrible punch,BUT laying at 70 to 90 degrees n merely rolls you.I warned an old timer about that when the 375 Weatherby first came out.Since I was younger that him,he told me to mind my own business.I did, and at the first shot broke his collar bone..Couldn't help but laugh,but his buddies didn't think I was very nice..Boy o Boy that was a long time ago..Of course I have never made a mistake..well hardly ever.modoc
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  • jonk
    Turks are cheapest, but often excellant shooters. Yugos are in the best shape, but in my opinion, have the least history. Czechs, germans, etc. are the best balance, I think.

    SO far as ammo, Hotshot, Igman, and a few others make non corrosive for under $10 a box, but that said, I've shot perhaps 20,000 rounds of corrosive ammo, no rust in any guns; just clean properly.

    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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