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Winchester Model 36 9mm shotgun

trsmith5
I was wondering if anyone has any info on this gun.
Is it rare or desirable. I came across one at an estate sale and having never seen one or knew they even existed, I bought it.
it came with some shells as well.
Any info would be appreciated, thanks
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  • oldammo
    Hello, One thing I can tell you is cartridges are pricey. I think only Winchester made them. You can get them from Europe where they have them for the Floberts. My customers complain that the solid brass shells need to be knocked out with a cleaning rod. You can find ones that are made like the original Winchester that seem to work well.

    Old Ammo, have lots always looking for more. Questions email aflower@epix.net
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  • woodshermit
    According to a couple of my reference books, about 20,000 of these were made between 1920 and 1927. The photos I have look almost identical to the 1902 in 22 caliber. It is likely more of a curiosity than anything else, but, you can never go wrong buying an early Winchester if it is in good condition. I wouldn't mind having one as a companion to my 22's. How is the bore? One of my books which is 5 years old gives it a value range of $225 to $750. How is the ammo marked and did it come with an original Winchester box? Sometimes the ammo with box is worth as much or more than the firearm.
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  • trsmith5
    Thanks guys,
    the ammo that I got along with the gun is in a FIOCCHI box, but some of the casings are brass and some are paper. The paper ones have a W on the bottom so I suspect they're winchester.
    The box does have the word flobert on it, What is a flobert?
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by trsmith5
    Thanks guys,
    the ammo that I got along with the gun is in a FIOCCHI box, but some of the casings are brass and some are paper. The paper ones have a W on the bottom so I suspect they're winchester.
    The box does have the word flobert on it, What is a flobert?


    Flobert is a generic term used in Europe for a inexpensive single shot rimfire firearm.

    The original Flobert was a French inventor who developed the earliest rimfire cartridges, and firearms to use them in the 1840's.

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  • Bert H.
    Hello trsmith5,

    Winchester manufactured the Model 36 from March 1920 - to the end of 1927, and only 20,306 of them were made. They are moderately collectable, and if in very good (or better) condition, they typically will sell for around $750 (lesser condition specimens will run in the $300 - $600 range). The Model 36 was built on John M. Browning's patent for the Winchester Model 1900, and was based on the Winchester Model 1902. I would recommend not shooting the original Winchester shells as they have some collecter value. The Fiocchi shells can be used/shot at will.

    Bert H.

    Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!
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  • Iconoclast
    tr, the Winchester ammo is indeed worth a premium - starting at $2 minimum each for the most common type - red, and if you should have a rare variety, considerably more. The Fiocchi appears from time to time - in both brass and nickel-plated versions, no paper tube. If you have European paper tube types, those are also on the "do not shoot" list. If you have a *box* for the Winchester ammo, then it is worth some bucks on its own (condition is paramount).

    "There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain)
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  • woodshermit
    Is this ammo rimfire or centerfire? Since Flobert is associated with rimfire, one would expect an "H" on the bottom of the casing and not a "W" if it is Winchester manufactured ammo. Correct or not?
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  • oldammo
    Hello, The Older Winchesters Rimfires had a H. The W is correct on this one.

    Old Ammo, have lots always looking for more. Questions email aflower@epix.net
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  • Iconoclast
    woodshermit, virtually all of the Winchester ammo had an "H" headstamp in honor of the founder of the original company - B. Tyler Henry. There have been a very few exceptions and this round, for whatever reason, was one of them.

    "There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain)
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