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New Club shells ----Value?

dipits
12 ga. Box has been opened but all shells are there.
Box is in great shape.
What would be the aprox. price range?
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  • dipits
    btt
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  • He Dog
    Best guy to talk with around here is Iconoclast. Either drop him an e-mail, or be patient, he will be along, though he is a little slow these days. He knows his ammo though.
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  • dipits
    would like bring this back to the top one more time . Thanks
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  • bobski
    click iconoclasts name icon and ask him.
    are we talking current remington club shotshells? if so, shoot em. no value other than say 3.00.
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  • Iconoclast
    dipits, very sorry I missed this before. Shotshells are *not* my specialty, but at the very least, the value is north of $100, the amount north depending on factors I do not know or at least cannot assess based on the information presented. If you can post *GOOD, CLEAR, CLOSE* photos (see the instructions in the sticky on "Wants") of the top & bottom, I'll see what I can do for you from my own references and consulting shotshell specialists. With boxes, placing them on a bed scanner is a quick & easy way to obtain super images of the packaging. The twelve gauge is obviously the most common, but really nice examples of older boxes, and I believe this is a pre-1900 item, bring good bucks regardless of the size.

    bobski - there are several flavors of UMC and Remington-UMC "Club" shells, as I'm sure you can appreciate from your own expertise with smoothbores. Some may be shooters, but in good condition, even the (right) Nitro Club boxes can bring prices well into the $xxx range, especially full boxes of the correct shells. The people who specialize in shotshell boxes (and .22 boxes) often put great value on some really esoteric small details in verbiage, patent dates, addresses and the like even if the packaging is otherwise identical. I don't pretend to know more than a few broad principles in this particular niche.
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  • bobski
    icono, key word here...look at his title. he's asking for a price check on 'new' shells.
    it sure is hard when someone just asks 'i have a box of shells, whats it worth?'
    its like asking, 'i have a car, whats it worth?' it would be a lot easier if we knew more info, like, what does new, mean?
    new-current production, or, new-old stock?
    [:p]
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  • john carr
    Dipits - I got rid of a bunch of old ammo a couple years ago and there was a box of New Club, box fair, two shells missing, I listed it on GB and I think it brought $35. Yours would be in excess of this. Hope this helps some.
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  • bobski
    would someone please fess up and tell me what im missing here? are we talking new or old new club?
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  • Iconoclast
    bobski, while your analysis may prove to be correct, respectfully, I doubt it unless these are indeed new or re- production of some sort. "New Club" was a UMC trade name line circa 1890 - 1905 which preceded "Nitro Club" but followed the earlier "Black Club" and "Club." [;)] I believe this designated a semi-smokeless loading.

    john carr, where I did not see your box, I cannot judge the condition nor know by what standard you graded it "fair." Still, I'm truly sorry to say I think it likely you received less than its fair market value.

    Just as a rule of thumb for dealing with collectible ammunition, value typically escalates sharply as the condition increases because packaging is virtually always more susceptible to visual degradation from adverse storage conditions than the ammunition while the age of the box has a multiplier effect on this, as it does with firearms. Collectible ammo / ammo collectors have many things in common with their firearms counterparts, but there are also significant differences. Based on my personal experiences, I think both groups are prone to mis-judging the value of items of interest to the other specialty.
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  • bobski
    now i see. so there was a shell actually called 'new club' 100 years ago. i was under the impression that our poster was asking us, 'hey! what are these new club shells that remington is making worth?'
    (since remington is indeed, making club shells again and are sold as a one step down from their sts line of competition shells.)
    see how i was reading it now?[:)]
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