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Colt Gold Cup - Cracked frame

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  • perry shooter
    Hello " +P+ " this is a result of too light of a recoil spring for the load you used in it. The heavier the load the heavier spring you need.
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  • David Nunn
    Recoil buffer.

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  • Mr Gee
    all the above, to lite of a powder charge / obstruction in the barrel - like maybe the bullet before it never made it out of the barrel double tapping or trying to push lead to fast...?

    confused....but learning
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  • Donovan Kirkpatrick
    Please explain how recoil buffer causes a cracked frame?
    Thanks.
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  • oldgunner
    Here's one more for you..According to this site, if you have one of the Gold Cups made between 1957 and 1970, serial number ending with NM, the slide was machined to lighten it for wad cutter use, and it tends to be weak, not good for high power loads.

    http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/nm.htm

    I have one myself, and I'm almost afraid to use anything other than wad cutters. Hopefully this is wrong, I'd never heard of it before seeing this site.

    There are no bad guns, only bad people.
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  • perry shooter
    Hello as with any semi AUTO pistol longevity depends on matching the load to the pistol . IMHO the best investment you can make is a spring kit . too light of a load for the spring will not let the gun function . Too heavy of a load for the spring will cause premature breakage of parts.I start with a very heavy spring and load one round fire this round and the slide should not say back "gun did not reach full recoil movement of slide" then go one lighter spring at a time until the slide stays back. This has to be done with each change of load . I have one 1911 with over 200,000 rounds with no parts breakage in last 35 years. . .I dont like buffers as it gives a false idea that it will protect the gun from heavy loads and under normal conditions may cause damage to the slide stop indent in the slide. "IF THE SLIDE DOES NOT TRAVEL ALL THE WAY" then the slide stop pin does not have proper amount of time to FULLY engage the slide. "PRAISE THE HARDBALL GUN"
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  • CS8161
    I had a LW Colt Commander crack in the exact same place. Sent it to Colt, they sent it back said it was not there problem. Told me that the crack was in a non critical area and that I could continue to safely fire the weapon.

    Chris8161
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  • usmcret1992
    I have had Essex and other non Colt frames crack in this area, and have seen Colts, with the same non problem. Mostly seems to be a non issue as far as function of the weapon goes. Seems tomostly be caused by a combination of all of the things above, and this is a weak spot in the frame.Never seems to affect the function or the safety of the weapon in question, but it sure does affect the resale value. Have been informed that the crack here is no big deal, and like the guy above was told by Colt it is a non issue for the firing of the weapon.
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  • duppee
    You could grind out the crack, drill out the end(s) so that it travels no further, Tig weld up the "v" notch you ground, grind flat the weld, re-heattreat and refinish the frame, about $200 worth of work, and not worth it, basically.
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  • duppee
    some of the mechanical recoil buffers were known to come apart, and when the slide slammed back into the misplaced buffer parts, bad things happened to the slide or the frame.
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