Para's LDA 1911s
Is the Para LDA 1911 a DAO system where the hammer is cocked with each trigger pull or is it a first shot DA, then slide recoil cocked SA for subsequent shots? I can't seem to find anything in Para's literature that says which it is.
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It's a DAO operation. That is why some models have bobbed hammers.
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Thanks Aspen79se 0 -
I have one and well....it's kind of like a hybrid between a DAO and a single action. But the basic operation of it is DAO.
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I have 2 , 1 is a full size 45acp the other is a compact in 40 S&W , i like both od them a lot [:D] the really nice thing about them is they have all the same features of a single action 1911 with one of the nicest dao trigger pull out there 0 -
The LDAs are DA. The hammer is fractionally cocked with slide recoil/rack, maybe an eigth or less. The rest of the hammer action occurs during trigger pull. If you get a bad round, a second trigger pull isn't going to help you, because it is not a true DAO pistol. You've got to cycle it out manually.
Para also makes traditional SA 1911-type pistols. I've never disassembled one, so do not know if they are "true" 1911s.
I've heard it argued that Para LDAs are not one bit 1911, but my LDA has the same barrel link, barrel bushing, recoil rod, recoil spring, magazine, locking lugs.
There is a firing pin disconnect and a grip safety; I'm not up on slide detasils, buit the slide appears to disassemble as my Colt slide disassembles.
A MAJOR difference: try to do an LDA detail strip in the same time as a 1911, in thr same time.
Here are a few observations/comments on LDAs from an M1911.org thread:
One other quirk, shared by both the P-series and the LDA pistols, is that Para Ordnance uses ramped barrels instead of a ramped frame like the original Browning design. A few other manufacturers also use ramped barrels, and it is possible to buy aftermarket ramped barrels to retrofit to "real" 1911s by milling the frame. It's just a technicality that adds to the "not quite a true 1911"-ness of Para pistols.
The trigger, draw bar, sear, disconnector, and a few other things are really strange....
If it aint single action it aint 1911.
http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=3535&page=1&pp=10
Is an LDA a 1911?0 -
Granted, there are some differences in engineering between para-ords and 1911's of old. But they shouldn't be dismissed quite so quickly. But, either way, that wasn't the question.
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Ah ! Sorry! For some reason I jumped topics and answered the "1911" question. I mis-interpreted the thread title [/b]Para's LDA 1911s[/b], to mean "Are Para LDA's 1911s?"
The LDA has the same trigger pull every time. A light, long DA pull, every pull, if the slide has racked.
You have to dig around their site to find them extolling their Light Double Action.
I've had mine a couple years now. The pull is very smooth.0 -
once you get used to it, the trigger pull is really cool. ive fired a few of them, but haven't gotten around to buying one. 0 -
woodman: while your information in your first reply wasn't exactly what my question was, it was still interesting information. Thanks.
I guess more specifically what I'm trying to figure out is: on a Para LDA, is the hammer down between shots without decocking?0 -
Yes, the hammer is down on the LDA until you draw the trigger back. However, inside the para-ordnance there is a lever that stays cocked, it's not a true DAO, it's a hybrid DAO/SA. Pulling the trigger dosen't actually cock the hammer back and make it ready to fire. You have to manually rack the slide and that in turn pulls a cocking lever into place. It can't actually fire the gun though. Even if it does slip and slam foward it won't fire the gun, fortunately.
It's a wierd system. But it shoots nice. [:D]
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