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savage muzzleloader vs Omega

muskox2000
I am considering getting a muzzle-loader and have ot narrowed it doewn to these two. My questions is (as a naive person) is the breech of the savage as weather protected as that of the Omega? I like th eidea of using smokeless powder if the thing is as rain resistant. Thanks, Musky
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  • JustC
    I have the savage and it has gone under 1" for 3 shots many times. I don't know about the weatherproof issue, but it sure shoots extremely well and doesn't have to be cleaned right away because the smokeless powder is not corrosive.

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
    Got Balistics?
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    Its hoped that You both are talking about PYRODEX and Not Smokeless Powder such as Powder that one would load a Cartrige with......

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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  • iluvguns
    Captain...sorry to - ahem - correct you, but the Savage mz uses regular old smokeless powder. Same powder you load in a cartridge. I have never shot one, but they are supposed to be excellent shooters. Here is the link to the Savage site...
    http://www.savagearms.com/muzzleloader_home.htm
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  • muskox2000
    Right, you are. That was the big thing about the Savage to me, not as much cleaning fuss. The thing is I hunt in north Forida and a big worry here is moisture and the problem of misfires (or so I have heard). So the big advantage to the Omega is weather protection, and I don't know enough about MLs to know if mositure would be a problem with the Savage.

    Thanks to everyone for the feedback. Musky
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  • Snellstrom
    The Savage shoots either or....
    IMR -4227, Accurate XMP5744, or black powder or pyrodex and the like.
    I know it sounds too bizarre but its true, I was just looking at one on the auction and if I needed an in-line muzzleloader I'd buy the Savage without question.
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  • muskox2000
    Snellstrom,

    So you wouldn't worry about moisture with the Savage? It has a lot going for it. No doubt about that. I probably would go for the Savage -- smokeless powder and an accutrigger makes it tough to beat. Musky
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  • Snellstrom
    To be honest I haven't examined the primer pocket and bolt assembly close enough to know for sure but it does have a bolt that completely encases the 209 primer which makes it as good as anyone elses, and most bolt action in-lines aren't known to be troublesome with respect to letting moisture into the powder/ primer. Savage does make some nice accurate stuff, all that coupled with the Accutrigger and the multi powder option wins me hands down.
    A neat little tool I found at Cabela's for unloading a muzzleloader with out firing it would be handy too, that way each evening you can unload without firing off a shot and spooking game and reload with fresh powder in the morning, that way you know it's not wet but fresh every A.M.. The little unit uses CO2 and forces the powder and bullet out by sending a blast through the nipple.
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  • hornet
    I have two T/C omegas and both shoot 3 shot groups with the holes touching each other at 100 yards. One is SS the other is Blue. I have never shot the Savage but they are suppose to be very good muzzleloader. Keep one thing in mind not all states will allow the use of smokless powder. I do not really know of any that allow smokless powder in a muzzleloader, there are probably a few states the do. If you are interested in a T/C omega 50 cal I am planing on selling the SS one, it has a SS Nikon 3x9x40mm scope , black synthetic stock and Leupold rings and bases. I can be reached at bkt76rpt79@aol.com

    Hornet
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  • JustC
    hornet,..does your regulation read,.....

    "a muzzle loader must use no less than 70gr's of black powder or equivalent propellant" ??

    That's what mine says,..and the way I interpret it, the 47gr of IMR4227 pushing the slug at 1200fps certainly qualifies as the equivalent propellant. If nothing else, I have a great argument in the court. We have dicussed it between a bunch of us,..and we are all using the Savage until we are told that we are specifically prohibited from using it.[;)][:D]

    as far as the weatherproofing,..I looked at the boltface last night and it seems to be quite waterproof. The primer is set into a groove on the boltface and the bolt is then pushed foreward into the breech, which seems to seal the mechanism quite well. Now, a driving rain in the stand if the breech is left uncovered may negate that,..but I tend not to stay put in the driving rain without a cover anyway.

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
    Got Balistics?
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  • D.S.COLE
    In some States the Savage is illegal as a muzzleloader,it is illegal here in Va. where I live. I think it is a good rifle and works satisfactory by all Ive heard. Be sure its legal in your State before you buy.
    The Omega is the best designed of them all.They are the simplest to use and clean and they are super accurate. Its the first choice of the Premium ones in our shop.
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  • steveg
    Im lost why are muzzle loaders not leagle in some states
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