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  • hulvin
    There is none, because there is no difference.
    Full choke is full choke, etc.

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  • bobski
    not true. euro chokes are done in metric. usa is american standard.
    rule of thumb is one choke difference.
    i/e:
    skeet/usa = skeet in usa. bring it to europe and its a cylinder to them.
    european/skeet = skeet in europe. bring it to usa and its an ic to us.
    its tighter over there than here.
    their full there is really an extra full if brought over here.
    whew![:)]
    former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, former navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction. NRA certified instructor.
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  • hulvin
    Hi Bobski,

    Maybe you are referring to a particular European made shotgun. If so, please say an example.

    But as a rule:
    Chokes are not expressed in dimensions (diameters), so euro chokes are not done in metric. If you know an example where chokes are done in metric, please let me know.

    Small Arms & Ammunition Manufacturer's Institute (SAAMI) issued a recommended standards for chokes in each gauge. For example in 12 ga, if the standard diameter of a bore is .729 inch:
    Full choke is .694
    Modified choke is .710
    Imp. Cyl. Choke is .720
    Cylinder choke .729 (NONE)

    These designations and dimensions are the same in Europe.
    There is a difference in boring in Europe, though, so that standard 12 ga shotgun barrels run from .722 - .729, hence the smaller choke constrictions in smaller bores, but the percentage of constrictions are proportional.

    Therefore, it is not true that the skeet choke in the USA is a cylinder choke in Europe.
    Cylinder choke is cylinder choke (no choke at all) in the USA, Europe or anywhere else.
    The same applies to full choke and all others in between.

    Furthermore, it is not true that the skeet in Europe is IC in the USA.

    I don't know where your information came from, sorry, but you are wrong.

    Very good reading for this topic is Ralph T. Walkers book : "Shotgun Gunsmithing", for anyone who wishes to know more about chokes.

    Skeet choke is a special type of choke which do not falls in standard choke categories which are from cylinder to full. There are all kind of variations in Skeet chokes, but no standards as far as I know.


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  • bobski
    call browning in hertsal beligum.[:)]
    better yet, shoot a belgian browning full at an american trap meet on the 27yd line and watch what happens.

    former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, former navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction. NRA certified instructor.
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  • hulvin
    Thanks.
    I've just called the people from Browning, Herstal and they told me:
    "Say Hello to Bobski".[:D]


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