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  • STEEL CORE
    Does anybody know if this gun was put out by Colt?
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=504706562
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  • gotstolefrom
    It sounds to me like you have something you value very much.

    I have some pieces in the back of my safe that I have no need to ask what the value of each is. The piece has a 'heritage' that only I appreciate. You may be able to blue book it, but it is priceless to me. ENJOY

    If we do not hang together,
    We will most certainly hang separately.
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  • nmyers
    Well, it's possible that the guy's father was in the 13th Cavalry & used the gun against Pancho Villa. Not likely, but possible. But, he didn't just "keep it", he stole it. Then, as now, the FBI investigates the theft of US property. But, they are not looking for anything from prior to the Viet Nam War.

    About 10 years ago I had an old guy show me a nice original M1911 that HIS father had stolen from the Army during WWI. There are still some of them out there. It's possible that an original M1911 made it through WWII, but I've never seen one.

    The story may be true, he may really have killed 3 men with it, but it doesn't matter. Oral stories are worthless, & there is no provenance for stolen items. But the gun, on it's own, is worth what any other slightly mutilated original finish M1911 is worth.

    On the other hand, I've seen several expertly refinished M1911's; if you aren't real familiar with what an original one looks like, you could be fooled.

    Neal
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  • browningfan
    www.coltautos.com


    run the sn, itll give you production dates and how many were produced in that year
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  • breechman
    Once passed through my hands a Mauser 7x57 rifle with a stamped word on the receiver saying "Viva Pancho Villa". It was bought by a collector finally. Honestly I never knew the authenticity....

    Breech
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  • 1911a1-fan
    quote:says something like "Yea an old Colt 1911" Wanna sell it? and thats it

    I would not give them the time of day with a gun like that your wasting your time taking it to them

    This web site can tell you if it was reported stolen, and when and where it was isssued

    http://armscollectors.com/srs/lookup_auto.php

    but do not assume it was stolen, depending on his rank and service he could have very well received the pistol, as far as value goes it very well depends on the condition, the notches could go ether way , they would hurt you on the open market, but if you could gather documentation on the pistol, and prove your story, it could possible double the price or more to a serious collector

    quote:could someone just keep it from Uncle Sam all these years?

    It happens every day, it is highly unlikely that it has been put into n.i.c.s. , so would not worry about it because they are not, I would like to know what the above web site has to say if you don't mind

    Here is the sites main page also
    http://www.armscollectors.com/srs.htm
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  • Txs
    Not all firearms marked as US gov't property were stolen. Back in the day, lots of US gov't property handguns were sold through legit channels. One old gent I know tells me he paid $15.00 for a 1911A1 when he left active duty following the Korean war.

    Besides their being offered for purchase, there was a time when commanders were authorized to permit personnel to retain certain equipment items as a form of award. Both handguns and knives, being viewed as somewhat personal items, were sometimes allowed to be retained as momentos.

    STEEL CORE- Too bad you can't establish solid provenance, but you still have a very cool keeper item there. With the Colt factory documentation of it going to the Mexican border, it sounds like you've got a pistol that would be nice to display along with other Pershing Expedition memorabilia.
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