EAA witness...OK or POC ?
I am wondering about the quality of EAA firearms.
I have never owned one, and something in the back of my feeble mind says I've heard something about them....I just don't remember what. I posted earlier, looking for something and EAA was one response.
Just a little feedback.
Thanks
I have never owned one, and something in the back of my feeble mind says I've heard something about them....I just don't remember what. I posted earlier, looking for something and EAA was one response.
Just a little feedback.
Thanks
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They are well worth the money, but do sometimes require some minor polishing to make them function with 100% reliabilty. This is common and is referred to as "fluff and buff". Many websites, including this one will probably have references about it.
One thing to remember however. While Tangfolio (the maker) is a reputable company, the importer (E.A.A.) is one of the worst companies you can ever deal with should you have problems beyond the normal. Luckily, those instances are rare...0 -
What bambihunter said. Their witness series with the steel frame is pretty good for the money. However, EAA's customer service is crappy. 0 -
I own the full size .40 in wonderfinish, and .45 in the blue finish. Fantastic guns for the money. I have never had any problems with them of any kind. I, however, have never had to deal with the customer service end of it so I will have to defer to bambi on this one. He always gives sound advice and I wouldn't want to dispute him on this either. But do check them out , I think you will be surprised. 0 -
I have had several of them; all in .40 cal. Very good pistols, but get the adjustable sights. The fixed sights shoot low for me. Both of mine needed a trigger job and got one each. Again with both of them I used my Dremmel and some polishing compound on the feed ramp.
Each of them served me well in the action shooting games ( IPSC and IDPA ). Holding up well in the action shooting games is really saying something considering that I wore out a Springfield .45 but never could wear out either of my EEA guns. [8D]0 -
Its fine. . .definitely NOT a POC!
First off its based on the CZ-75 which 1911-location-like controls, meaning if you're used to the 1911 the controls are perfectly intuitive. The CZ design lets you go double-action or cocked-and-locked, so you can carry either way if you want to. (No decocker. . .you have to manually decock if you want to carry hammer down. ..CAREFULLY!). The gun has a nice ergonomic grip including beavertail and ring-commander hammer for zero chance of hammerbite. If you're used to the fat gripped Beretta or blocky Glock grips you'll be amazed holding this thing how comfortable a double stack pistol can be. Safety and slide lock are smoothed for less "snag". Slide stop itself is internal, so no external notch on the slide. Reversed rails enhance accuracy. . I'd bet out of the box this one will outshoot most service pistols (including Glock, etc).
The one I've used, breaking it down, the feed ramp was definitely rough with tool marks, but the gun seemed to work perfectly anyway. I put a few hundred rounds through it with out a single hitch so I have no complaints there. Polishing the ramp would be about a five or ten minute job with some fine sandpaper or a dremel.
A great gun? Well, its not a match pistol, and its not a race gun, but you're not going to get that for what this costs. As a basic "service" gun as-is out of the box its probably as good if not better than most of the ones out there that cost 50% or even 100% more.
Compared to what it costs. . .I think the gun is a steal.
You get a reliable full size, modern design, European built, tough as heck ergonomic double action gun with all the amenities including changeable grips, nice front AND back serrations, dovetailed rear sight, ring hammer, beavertail, double stack high cap mag, and modern firing pin safety BRAND NEW for about $300. Plus if you get the large frame model caliber conversions are relatively cheap, if you want to switch up (or down) to .38 super, 10mm, or .45 ACP. (The small frame model only goes 9mm or .40). They all just drop right in. Strip the gun, put on the new slide and barrel. Takes all of 30 seconds.
Trigger pull out of the box is decent. . .noticeably better than a Beretta's in double-action, but the single action is not all that great (at least it HAS a single action). You can buy a drop in single action trigger that supposedly helps a lot for about $75.
I think this is one of those cases where the gun gets little respect precisely *because* its so cheap. It has to be priced less than the "actual" CZs, and those are still pretty cheap because the economy in the Czech Republlc (and much of Eastern Europe) is so lousy. If the gun cost $450, I think people would take it a lot more seriously.
By the way, I'd definitely recommend the "Wonderfinish". That's basically a surface treatment chemically like the one on the Glock, so its tough as nails, but with the Witness, they leave the metal bare, so you get a stainless look. If you're clever, you can switch the slides between guns to create a "Bren Ten" (comes in 10mm!).0 -
I want to throw in my two cents. I was shopping for my first handgun and found what seemed to be a great price comparativly on the EAA 9MM Witness. I read several articles on this gun and figured I would go ahead and try it.
I have since had several shooters at the range ask to fire a few rounds with it and they really seem to like it. I sure do. I was surprised at the ease of operation, the comfort, and the fact that I can actually hit something with it.
I am not a pistol guy. I got this purely as a carry weapon if ever needed, and I am real happy that I did. I have never shot a glock or any other automatic pistols, but I can honestly say that I never felt uncomfortable with this gun.
Someone mentioned that you could switch calibres with this frame. This is a great Idea I think. I like 9MM 'cause it is cheap off the shelf, but I like the thought of moving to a 40cal if necessary.
Buy the Witness in the wonder finish and save the $150.00 you would spend for the name on another gun.
Thomas
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I agree with the majority of what I've read here...the Witness line is an EXCELLENT bang for the buck!
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thanks guys, yall just sold me on my next purchase, lol 0 -
Something Ive learned in my time on this board.You might as well save the money and get the real thing.Save and spend the little bit more it will cost to get a real CZ. 0 -
Steel framed Witness pistols are great; it's the plastic ones that are made like a Chinese shoe.
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In response to that last post.
The "real" CZs are better in some ways. . .not as good in others. Externally they are essentially identical. Witness will take current stock CZ mags though the converse isn't always true.
The CZs definitely have better quality control, and arguably "coolness" factor, but they also cost more money and aren't designed for easy conversion like the Witnesses. If you want to go the multicaliber route, Witness is better. Customer support is undoubtedly better from CZ.
For what its worth the mag release on the Witness is easily reversible to go lefty (unlike on the CZ).
More important, the older CZs (ie the ones without the firing pin block) in particular, have better single-action triggers than the Witness, but the difference in the modern CZs is a little blunted because of the firing pin block. (I haven't fired enough of either one to generalize more that that).0
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