Ammo question
Ok, this may sound stupid, but I have never really understood the difference between .38 Special and .38 Special +P. I have had only a limited amount of experience with a .38 Special for starters. I guess I just need to know what the difference between the two is, does +P have to be shot through a "special" type of .38 revolver and can I shoot +P through a .357 revolver?
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Let me see, how to put the question. Is it true, that if you use one type of ammo for target, and a different ammo to hunt with that the weight should be the same For instance!! If you use 158 grain lead nose to practice with then you should use 158 grain jhp to hunt with. Is this correct? Seems to make sense, since both weights are equal so you should hit target in the same place, taken into consideration windage and elevation. Thank you for any information. 0 -
NOTHING SPECIAL, THE 'RA' IS REMINGTON, THE 'E.C.' IS EAU CLAIRE (WIS.) AND HAS A STEEL CASE. BOTH ARE CORROSIVE PRIMED. I'M NO EXPERT ON AMMO PRICES BUT I'LL GUESS ABOUT $.25 EA. 0 -
Hello, If its in boxes you may get $10 to $15. The RA 41 is the better of the two. Singles VERY hard to sell.
Old Ammo, have lots always looking for more. Questions email aflower@epix.net0 -
It's worth virtually nothing as a collectible and about the same as shooting ammo. But for the sentimental value . . . I'd think it would be worth quite a lot to the family?
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EC, might be Eue clare, but I believe it's more likley to be produced at the Evensville (Ind) Chrysler plant (I probably spelled it wrong).
They produced enough 45ACP ammo at Evensville that the army cancled all 45 production in 1944 due to a over abundance of the stuff.
Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.0 -
Tailgunner is correct on the headstamp for Evansville Chrysler - there is also 'E C S' for "Evansvile Chrysler Sunbeam" - an appliance factory which Chrysler owned and used for the same types of ammo (.45 & .30 Carb). But there are uncounted rounds in these headstamps still floating around. The military expected to use far more .45 SMGs than they actually fielded and the ammo production far outstripped both weapon production and demand.
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I had 5,000 rounds of the EC 42. Steel case, made by Chrysler. I shot all of it and even reloaded the steel cases. The primers were a bit tight but many of them were reloaded 10 or more times. More than one person said it could not be done. All I had to do was show them the magazine full of reloaded steel cased .45's to change their minds. 0 -
Don't give Robo any ideas. Wolf is already cheap enough.
Dean
quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
I had 5,000 rounds of the EC 42. Steel case, made by Chrysler. I shot all of it and even reloaded the steel cases. The primers were a bit tight but many of them were reloaded 10 or more times. More than one person said it could not be done. All I had to do was show them the magazine full of reloaded steel cased .45's to change their minds.
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BPost98. I kept hearing from "those in the know" that it was impossible to reload that stuff, and being alot more stubborn than your average Bear, I decided to take it on as a project. After buying a cheap set of great condition used RCBS Carbide dies, I got rolling on the resizing part of things and experienced a broken decapping pin about 500 pieces into the project. Those are cheap, and the replacement lasted the remainder of the 1000 pieces I sized and is still plugging along nicely several thousand sizings later. The hardest part is removing the military primer crimp and getting a decent trim for case OAL. After basically ruining my RCBS Trim Pro (granted, that was an expensive mistake with a nice trimmer!)I found that in essence the cases were within spec anyway, and ceased trimming them, as they don't seem to stretch much anyway. I ran the cases through the tumbler for about 5 hours and WOW!! It looks as though they were silver plated...even brighter than nickel! It was of course a bummer to get the primers set as a uniforming tool is like melting a glacier with a Bic lighter, but they will set with some TLC. This stuff has always worked well for me and I enjoy the challenge. It amy be a little bit of a tussle, but I feel it is worth it!
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since its a 45 ammo thread, mind if i ask this? see below. its all 55. should i shoot it up or sell it as collectible? is it corrosive or ok? thanks! 0 -
bobski:
(1) No collector value unless you find a bottom feeding fish - shoot the stuff. I collect it, I deal in it and I would blast it without a second thought.
(2) I don't know if this site is down or it's just my system acting cranky yet again, but at one time this listed all the safe dates for NC ammo:
http://www.jouster.com/bulletin/primers.htm
Kydster / Bruce:
I, too, have reloaded the steel cases, resizing them with a carbide die. It does take some extra effort. My primary concern was cleaning the damn cases in hot soapy water to remove the corrosive salts and cleaning the weapon itself the same way after firing the original rounds. Y, it *can* be done. You can also reload .22 rimfire ammo if you really want to go to the bother. Most people do not. If I had a quantity of this ammo obtained very cheaply and wanted to use it, personally I would pull the slugs, dump the powder, punch out the damn corrosive primers and *only then* mess with the reloading steps. I found the Lyman primer pocket crimp cutter did a fine job on the 100 or so I played with *way* back along. But then, I have several thousand 1xF brass casings for which I paid $0.01 each . . . so there's no way I'm going to jump through a bunch of hoops to shoot steel cased surplus from WW2!
TG1954 / MikeW:
It took me a while to recall this, but the arsenal code for Eau Claire was "E W" and I am pretty sure they only produced .30-06 loads in small arms ammo.
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thanks! out the gun they go! 0
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