Shooting o/u compaired to side xside's
Question do sxs shotgun's shoot different than o/u.I can hit pretty good with my o/u's but don't do as good with my sxs 20ga.
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john browning designed the o&u to give you a better sighting plain. o&u's allow you to see more of the surrounding area when you swing.
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It is possible that the difference is that o/u barrels are regulated high and low and sxs barrels are regulated left and right. 0 -
To expand on rsnyder55:
With O&U you miss high and low with SXS you miss right and left.[:D]0 -
???????? Sounds like someone (or two) needs to rethink their excuses for missing (and maybe try hitting the pattern board to boot).
BA, I'd be more inclined to think that your SxS dosn't fit you as well as your O/U does.
Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.0 -
take 4 strings and staple them to a barn door 2" apart in a circle. snap one at 12 oclock, 3 oclock, 6 oclock and 9. all 2" apart.
pull all 4 strings about 30 yds away from the barn door and tie them together. note how all the strings come together?
that how a shotgun is patterned. regardless if its at 3 and 9(sbs) or 12 and 6 (o&u,) they all come together at 30 yds.
if your missing your birds, its time to check the fit and check for holes at a pattern board as tailgunner says.[;)]
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Hey guy's thanks for the answer's.I'll try to pattern the gun's first then maybe I can figure it out. 0 -
The loss of vision between an O&U versus a SxS will depend a great deal on how you shoot a shotgun. You still have two barrels with either and the way they sit causes loss of sight(mementarily) as you swing through your target. If you shoot with one eye closed as most field hunters do then the loss of target vision will be much greater with a SxS than an O&U. If you shoot with both eyes open as I and most target shooters do, then the loss is very small on both. The loss will also to some degree depend on what the target is doing: a rising target will have more loss with an O&U than a SxS but a horizontal target will have more loss from a SxS than with an O&U. I've shot both for 40 years or more and I like the SxS better(it seems to swing smoother for me) but that is just a personal thing with me and not the guns. It does not matter whether you have a single barrel, an O&U or a SxS, the first thing you should do after acquiring it is to pattern it and see where it is shooting and what its pattern density is with each choke that you have for it. Chokes do not always pattern the way they are marked. Also the shot size will change pattern density also in most guns. Its like expecting a rifle to shoot any make or weight of bullet equally--it just ain't going to happen --normally. 0 -
im not convinced that you lose more sight with a o&u than a sbs on rising targets. its just not physically possible. you only have 1 bbl instead of 2 PLUS the bbl joint. the loss of vision is reduced even more w/ o&u's in smaller gauges. sorry, but i must challange that statement.
when you have a gun locked up tight into your arm, all you see on an o&u is the top of the receiver(thinner than a sbs) and the rib or 1 bbl(thinner than a sbs.) most times, all you see is the width of the rim and juuust a liitle of the 1 bbl hanging over on both sides. john browning knew what he was doing.
with left and right shots on a sbs, you have either the left or right bbl interfering with your leads on left and right birds if the bird dips, its gone. on risers, if a bird gets under your bbls(2, plus the rib and joint) and flies straight instead of up, it disappears.
so i politley put that to the discussion.
o&u is a better design than a sbs.
do i shoot both? yes.
which do i like best? O&U hands down.
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Bobski, You are 100% correct, thats why the O/U has taken over sporting clays when it comes to twin barreled guns. They have even pushed the s/s out of the upland game bird's lead position. Based on the countless numbers of shotguns I have patterned over the years the O/U also tends to be more forgiving as the lower barrel tends to shoot a little higher than the upper once you go beyond the optimal range, where as the side by sides cross sideways at distance, handicapping you on on shots crossing the wrong direction on again, ranges beyond optimal distances, as you alluded to when explaining where the barrels are regulated to. 0 -
thank you. you earned your 3rd post on gb! welcome!
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As a point of humor on the subject:
My grandpop told me when I was a young fellow that he used a SxS because one barrel would get the rabbit when he zigged and the other when he zagged.[:)]
Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.0
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