Anyone Try Lake City Arsenal .223 Ammo?
Well, I found a great deal on some bulk .223 ammo. Its 62grain, and it has a Steel Core.. It is Made by Bulk Lake City Arsenal.. Someone told me that they are a branch of remington, but I don't know.
Just wanted to know if anyone knows anything about this ammo, or have tryied it. Or has Any Recomendations......
This ammo is going to be whizzing out of a Kel-tek Carbine.
"A Clean Gun is a Happy Gun" Spazzzzzzzzzzz
Just wanted to know if anyone knows anything about this ammo, or have tryied it. Or has Any Recomendations......
This ammo is going to be whizzing out of a Kel-tek Carbine.
"A Clean Gun is a Happy Gun" Spazzzzzzzzzzz
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spaz,
lake city is a manufacturer for the military, they sell off over runs and odd lots to the general public. If the ammo is packed "bulk" it is typically reject ammo from the military contracts. That being said, it is the best ammo you can buy. Atleast, that is my understanding of it.
please share the location of this cheap ammo.
cut and pasted from other forum.
This is just a head's up to everyone that indications are that we are about to enter an extended period where supplies of our favorite ammo is going to be low or non-existant. What I'm talking about here is specifically M193 and M855-spec ammo:
- Federal XM193 & XM855
- Winchester Q3131A
- IMI M193 and M855
You may already know that IMI has been in short supply for a while, and more recently, the Winchester (made by IMI) has also ran dry. And now, Federal has temporarily discontinued the boxed XM193. Currently, the only ammo commonly available are the loose-packed XM193PD and XM855PD. As you may already know from this thread, this ammo is bulk-packed, and is definitely not 1st-tier ammo. It is, in fact, QC rejects, and unlike previous boxed XM193, much of the "PD" ammo has problems more serious than just lack of sealant.
Why is this happening? Simple: the War On Terror. Ammo demands have continued to climb, especially in Iraq, but also due to a much higher training tempo here at home, and the US military's only ammo plant, Lake City, has not been able to keep up. As a result, the military has been buying additional ammo from IMI as well as using ammo from the strategic reserves (i.e., storage). It's clear that we can't keep using up all the reserve ammo, so more pressure has been put on Lake City (i.e., Federal/ATK) to maximize their military-usable ammo. Even so, the military is still buying lots of ammo from IMI, who is also supplying ammo to many other countries in the region who are involved in the WoT.
The result is that IMI has suspended its contract to supply ammo to Winchester, and of course, they have not exported any 5.56 ammo for some time. And now Federal is using 100% of Lake City's capacity for the war. If we see any ammo from LC, it's likely to be more of the "PD" ammo, meaning stuff that was too bad to be used by the military. I expect we'll see more XM855PD instead of XM193PD going forward, given that M855 is made in significantly higher volume.
Certainly, commercial ammo will continue to be available as always, but it isn't going to be loaded to military pressures/velocities, and it won't be crimped or sealed. And it's more expensive.
Why am I posting this? Simple: to make sure everyone knows what the situation is, so they can plan accordingly. Understand that things could change (for better or worse) at any time, but as of now, the ammo situation looks pretty gloomy for 2005.
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From Natchez website:
.223 Ammo Green Tip
Lake City Overun!
Original Production
1000/Box, 2/Case
Sale $199 per 1000
Buy Now
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Spaz, Lake City is the last government arsenal producing ammunition. The others were closed "to save money" by short-sighted politicians / officials, resulting in the shortages referenced elsewhere in this thread. The loading quoted by you and nononsense is the SS109 "heavy ball" or "semi-AP" . . . good ammo for rifles with the proper twist barrels. For inexpensive 5.56x45, this is about as good as it gets.
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SPAZ,
Have you dropped off the earth?
CAn you share the cheap ammo location?????[8D]
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Ok, I just got back.. I had to climb up the side of the earth, because I had fallen off after taking a wrong turn up at the local forest.
So to answer your question, muss, the deal is at cabelas.com
Ok, I got to roll, thanks guys for the all the info.. It was just what I needed.
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Cabelas is out of stock on their ammo as of today.
Your mileage may vary.
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You know what, on second thought, I don't think I am going to get those rounds.
I was talking to an old gun guru, who use to own a gun store, and he said that he WORE OUT an M-1 barrel by shooting a couple thousand of those steel core bullets out of it.
Now I don't know what brand steel core bullets he was shooting, but he stated that the steel core just kept the bullet from having the right amount of give to them. And it wore the rifling out of the barrel.
So, that's that. Any arguement or explainations feel free.
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