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perry shooter, or anyone

1911a1-fan
I have question about Springfield ultra compact , I have been looking at the champion over the last year , and noticed all of them where series 80 type, but I ran across this ultra compact that was series 70 , I have been told that they went to series 80 then back to series 70, and now back to series 80

Do you have any information on this or maybe some dates if there is any truth to it?
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  • perry shooter
    Hello I dont know what Springfield does for there type series 80. The colt system unlike the 1936 colt "SWARTZ" uses the trigger to move the series 80 parts.This makes for heavier trigger pull."if you try to lighten trigger to get the NRA 3&1/2 pound limit then the hammer CAN follow the slide and the pistol can double." The Kimber IMHO uses the better of the 2 designs and uses the grip safety to move the parts. If you take the slide and lock it to the rear and operate the grip safety the better design you can see the operating pin in the frame next to the disconnect move with the grip safety.
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  • 1911a1-fan
    Well I know all that, I was hoping you knew more about that particular model, I do prefer the 70 series my self, while I do own a kimber with the swartz safety, if I where to by one for competition I would remove it, and put in a shim

    Series 80 is used widely as a safety, colt has the trademark on using it for a name, but usually it is know as a series 80 on any gun that has it

    Thanks anyway



    Actually it was 1939 for the swartz
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  • perry shooter
    Hello if you remove the parts in the frame you need to remove the parts in the slide that block the fireing pin also. the SWARTZ type does not distract fom the trigger pull and in some ways a plus unless you want a match pistol. and never carry it. "PRAISE THE HARD-BALL GUN"
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  • 1911a1-fan
    Perry I think you are miss understanding what my original question was, I was inquiring about the specific model of Springfield ultra compact, I do have many other 1911's but am unfamiliar with this specific model on the dates it did and did not have the series 80 parts, yes removing the parts on the frame alone will not work you must remove the firing pin block as well located under the rear sight on the slide, and in addition replace the lever with a shim where you removed it in the frame or it will cause parts to wobble, in some cases break, I would never advise it on a carry gun

    i was hoping you knew more about springfields in particular

    thanks anyway
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  • drobs
    From working at a range, I know a guy that has a Springfield V10 Ultra Compact that has had nothing but problems. His gun has gone back to factory 4 times. I don't recall the specific problems nor do I recall if it was a 70 or 80 variant but based on seeing his gun I would shy away from the SA Ultra Compact.

    How's that for being completely unspecific?

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  • mpolans
    IIRC, Springfield has never had the firing pin block safety incorporated in Colt's "Series 80" 1911s.
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  • mballai
    Officer size 1911s are generally poor guns because the physics that make a 1911 work well are lacking in the small gun. The recoil spring lasts maybe 1000 rounds. Get a commander size 1911 if you want somethng small.

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