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Sig220_Ruger77
Hey all,
I have been contemplating getting a 45/70 rifle and was planning on getting the marlin. I did, however, recently see a post on here that talked about a gun company called "Spartan" Guns. I know nothing about them accept that they are owned by Remington and they make a 45/70. Does anyone have any knowledge of this company or any experience with these guns? Thanks.

"The man who can hunt with 1 gun is the most dangerous, but that doesn't mean you can't have a lot of guns"

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  • TRAP55
    The Spartan line of guns offered by Remington are made by Baikal in Russia. The 45/70 is offered but won't be available until late fall of this year.

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  • MFI
    There is no comparison between Marlin and Spartan. Marlin much better made.
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  • select-fire
    I am not a bakaii or spartan fan. These guns are just not quality guns.. of course you get what you pay for.
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  • DONDALINGER
    I suspected the Spartan was actually a Baikal (they look almost identical). I have the IZH27 12ga. O/U. I paid less than $250 for it a few years ago NIB. I took a gamble on it and I am very pleased so far. It shoots really good, but is still tight after approx. 500-700 rounds. Guntests Magazine down in Florida did an in-depth test on the Baikal and gave it a thumbs up. It is not a fine, polished gun by any stretch. As far as I am concerned, it is a utility piece, hunt with it, enjoy it, shoot it and don't worry about it getting a few dings and scratches because I did not pay a fortune for it. A break action double 45-70 would be an interesting platform.

    "They call me Don. Dr. Jason Donald Dalinger."
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  • Snellstrom
    What style or should I say action type is the Spartan / Baikal 45/70 that is coming out?
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  • hadjii
    Select-fire, what exactly does quality mean to you? I have a Spartan 28 guage over/under, and I really like it. Of course it doesn't have an engraved receiver and some of the other fancy stuff, but who the heck cares. I don't need to try and impress anybody with the guns I carry, as long as they work that's what matters. The blueing is good, the wood to metal fit is good, the gun is tight, and everything functions very well. I have no complaints at all. If it has to say Ruger or Perazzi or Beretta or some other big name to be considered quality, I gotta say bologna.
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  • Rogmatt
    quote:I am not a bakail or spartan fan. These guns are just not quality guns.. of course you get what you pay for.

    I find most folk who criticize these guns are folk who have never owned one or put one to the test over a period of time. Every Baikal/Spartan owner I know loves their gun and thinks it's the best value of any gun they have ever purchased. I know for a fact they are built like tanks. It's not how much a gun cost, but how well it is made. Some people still have not learned that lesson.

    Here is a letter I recieved from Keith B. (President of EAA) just before he turned distributorship of the Baikal line over to Remington Spartan:

    Dear Roger

    I am not the best letter writer and as you can see many times you get answers from my Black Berry since I am on the road some where in the world.

    Baikal - correct would be Izhevsk Mechanisky Zavod or for short IMZ. This is the company that owns the trade mark Baikal after the fall of the USSR. Durring the USSR times all guns exported from Russia were called Baikal and they were made by different factories. A factory in Russia in the USSR times was called a Zavod (or home of the people). Literally they were the home of the people they supplied: work, social events, housing, income, medicial, cultural events, supported universities, etc. Today this is gone. The Zavod is like in the USA a place to work and some social things like volly ball games or contests.

    You may ask how did EAA come to work with IMZ? Simple, as an engineer I saw products with a foundation that were correct. The first meetings were hard and I could write a book on the experiences. Today Baikal products are technically correct and configured mostly correct for USA taste and are safe or safer than most products in the industy. Yes, we are not as pretty as some, but we say looks are only skin deep.

    Want a gun to hunt or use, buy a Baikal, want a gun to hang on the wall and look at, buy the competition.

    As you know today Baikal (IMZ) is working with Remington to build the Spartan line. This working relationship complements IMZ and Remington and further proves my origial thoughts that the IMZ product was techinally correct. To be approved to carry the Remington logo each model must go through a series of destructive and nondestructive test. The IMZ products passed the test and in some cases surprised the testors and IMZ engineers.

    An example of how far IMZ has come is the MP153. A reasonable price semi auto that runs 3.5" to 2.75" 12ga. Let's just say we did this project in record time and used engineers around the world. Had we not had e-mail we could of never acomplished this project in such a short time.

    In 2005 you will see many new items from IMZ including the MP221 or MR221 and the IZH18MH or IZH18MN. These two guns took a treaty amendent between the USA and Russia.

    Roger I am writing this on my hand held so it needs to be cleaned up before it can be printed. So if you could do this and pass it back for my final approval. I am a product of Florida schools and we were the guys that could not determin what a chad was.

    Thanks

    Keith
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  • select-fire
    hadjii, thank you for the comment.. You like bologna,, I like Porterhouse Steak.. As like in guns both are meat... but one is just not as good as the other [:D][:D][:D]
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