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7.62x25 Romanian hard primers

v35
Just tried out some '54 Romanian 7.62x25 in a Norinco Tokarev which took three strikes to set off. I'm glad I didn't buy a case.
Anyone have knowledge on which countries produced softer primers
in this caliber?
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  • rufe-snow
    Lot of the East Bloc 7.62 x 25 of that vintage, (1950's) was made for submachine guns rather then handguns. I was stationed overthere during that time frame, wasn't uncommon to see the VoPos and Workers Militia still armed with PPSH's.

    Chances are most of the Bloc ammo from that time frame is going to have hard primers.

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  • king999
    I had similar problems with CZ-52. About 10% of the rounds needed a second strike. Actually I thought it might be due to weak hammer spring, but your note suggests that the hard primer solution is correct. For plinking, this is not a major problem. Don't trust your life to that ammo!
    Morty
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  • v35
    Something isn't adding up. Tokarevs were issued at least as late as 1953(Poland). As far as I know there weren't two types of 7.62x25 in use by the Communists. The PPSH41 wasn't replaced by sattelites till much later.
    In Korea, Tokarev Pistols, Mauser 96 and Schnellfeuer pistols were used alongside PPSH 41s and Suderevs. I had a captured Tokarev that fired their military stuff ok.
    Some of this ammo was sent home and later fired in a 96 Mauser pistol.
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by v35
    Something isn't adding up. Tokarevs were issued at least as late as 1953(Poland). As far as I know there weren't two types of 7.62x25 in use by the Communists. The PPSH41 wasn't replaced by sattelites till much later.
    In Korea, Tokarev Pistols, Mauser 96 and Schnellfeuer pistols were used alongside PPSH 41s and Suderevs. I had a captured Tokarev that fired their military stuff ok.
    Some of this ammo was sent home and later fired in a 96 Mauser pistol.


    My understanding is, not only does this 50's vintage East Bloc 7.62 x 25 ammo have hard primers, some off it is overloaded to dangerous pressures for handguns. There was a bunch of warnings issued on the various MilSurp sites a while back, about a bad lot of Bulgarian ammo. Supposedly? it caused a bunch of pistols to selfdestruct.

    With the above in mind, I wouldn't be pushin my luck with this stuff. Over 50 years old, corrosive, hard primers, potentially dangerous, etc. Unless you know for a fact it's safe do yourself a favor, shoot Fiocchi or start reloading it.

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  • imakechips
    I had the same problem with some yugoslavian military stuff in my CZ-52, but the same ammo functions fine in my dad's CZ. Winchested and Sellier and Bellot both manufacture ammo in this caliber, and both funtion well enough(no misfires). I kinda think that surplus ammo in this caliber is made more for subguns than handguns.
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