7mm vs 7mm-08
I would like to hear from those hunters that use the 7mm round.
I'd like to know the differences between the 7mm and 7mm-08.
Which round performs better in the T/C Encore??
Thanks
I'd like to know the differences between the 7mm and 7mm-08.
Which round performs better in the T/C Encore??
Thanks
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Which 7mm? Magnum, Remington, Weatherby, TCU, 7-30 Waters, maybe Mauser? 0 -
7mm what? vs. 7mm-08.
I use a Mexican 1910(built in 1933) in 7x57 for hunting and a 7x57 on a VZ-24 action in a Fajen stock for target shooting. Both are very accurate and neither kicks much. I load to near maximum with both and my loads exceed what the 7mm-08's do velocity wise. However, there is no reason that a 7mm-08 should not shoot extremely accurate, it is a fine cartridge.
I sold my 7mm Rem mag because I don't like recoil....and I never did get any handloads worked up that would give less than 1.5 MOA.
If you are talking about the 7mm TCU it is an extremely accurate round developed specifically for knockdown in silouhette shooting. Wes knew what he was doing with that round. Great choice in the T/C.
Again, though, the 7mm-08 will beat it velocity wise and with heavier bullets.
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This would be the 7mm-08 vs the 7mm magnum.
quote:Originally posted by Bill Costik
Which 7mm? Magnum, Remington, Weatherby, TCU, 7-30 Waters, maybe Mauser?0 -
The question is simple enough but hard to answer. I have a 7mm-08 and a 280 Rem. I used to have a 7mm Mag but traded it on the 280. I felt the magnum did not have enough performance gain for the recoil. The 7mm-08 (rebarrelled Rem 600 Mohawk)is by far my favorite deer rifle for hunting in GA and PA. The 280 goes along as a backup but I carry it to stands that I can shoot 200yds or more. When I go to Colorado, I use a 338WM and the 280 maintains the backup status. If you are going to hunt elk and a lot or shoot regularly at longer ranges - I would go with the magnum provided you can deal with the recoil. If you are just going after deer at reasonable ranges (0-200yds) go with th 7mm-08. If you only can have one rifle, the 280 is a great compromise between the two. BTW - The recoil of the 7mm mag is not all that great. It is similar to a 30-06 with 180gr bullets. It boils down to how you are going to use the rifle and the range you will be shooting at. You really can't go wrong.
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I have both guns. The 7mm-mag has more recoil but is a great all-around gun. The 7mm-08 is good for deer size game out to around 300 yards, has much less recoil and a shorter action. The 7 mag is good for anything in the lower 48 and can handle larger bullets. All depends on what and where your hunting. Mine are tikkas and I am very happy with them! 0 -
I have them both, and they are suited to different tasks. The 7mm rem mag is a great large game on long range round. The 7mm-08 is a much better choice for 100-200yd work on whitetail and larger animals. NO need for a magnum for 100-200yds.
why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
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quote:Originally posted by 93glide
This would be the 7mm-08 vs the 7mm magnum.
The question of which 7mm mag still stands. Weatherby Mag? Remington Mag? Dakota Mag? Rem. Ultra Mag?
Since it is by far the most popular, I will assume you mean 7mm Rem Mag. In this instance, the difference between it and the 7mm-08 is considerable. The 7mm-08 is pushing it's limits on elk at close to moderate range (<250 yards). For all intensive purposes, it is a medium game caliber in the 7mm mauser class. The 7mm rem mag is a perfectly capable cartridge for all North American game animals, sans perhaps large Grizzlies. The 7mm Rem Mag is about 35% more powerful and much flatter shooting.
That said, the 280 Rem is one of the most practical general purpose cartridges out there. It is capable of producing energy on par with standard .30-06 loads, but provides a flatter trajectory and slightly lower recoil. The .280 falls between the 7mm-08 and 7mm Rem mag, being a bit closer to the mag.
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7mm 1895 Chilean Mauser - cost me $29,95 from a mail order house in 1960. First thing I did was to cut the barrel to 18" and crowned/ramped the barrel. Made it as slick a saddle gun as any Win. '94! Used it for years to hunt Javalina from horseback down amongst the canebrakes along the Colorado - California side, south of Blyth. That was 45 years ago. Just had it out again down in the desert last weekend - a dead on shooter. Trajectory as flat as a pancake, it should be shooting as sweetly for my grandkids when they are 60!
7mm forever ... and not the Mag!
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"That said, the 280 Rem is one of the most practical general purpose cartridges out there. It is capable of producing energy on par with standard .30-06 loads, but provides a flatter trajectory and slightly lower recoil. "
Hunter I beg to differ with you on this topic, both the 280 and 30/06 should produce the same amount of recoil if shooting the same bulletweights. The 280 is a fine cartridge as is the '06 but both are from the same case so their powder capacity should be identical, hence if driving a similar weight bullet ( both can fire 150 grainers) their recoil will be the same if rifles are of the same weight and construction. Also check your ballistics if both are firing bullets in the 160 grain range the 280 is no flatter than the '06. ( 280 shooting a 160, 30/06 shooting 165, take a look and you'll see). Granted if the 280 shoots 140's and the '06 is shooting 180's well you got a point on both counts there.[;)]
It is a fine round and that is not in dispute!0 -
guys, the issue isn't projectile weight, it's bore diameter that makes recoil differences. The "piston" that the 30-06 creates is .308" in dia whereas the piston that the 7mm pill creates is only .284" in diameter (smaller cylinder). The same powder charge, in the same case, pushing against equal weighted projectiles of differing diameters, will yield a greater recoil (albeit very small difference) in the larger bore diameter. In this instance, very accurate scientific equipment would be needed to measure the difference, as your shoulder is likely not that accurate. Now, in a 6.5mm-06 and a 30-06 with similar weighted projectiles, the 6.5mm will show much reduced recoil.
Also, similar weighted projectiles in differing bore dia will lend differing Balistic Coefficients. The smaller dia pill will have a higher BC given a known muzzle velocity. Therefore, at some distance, even if the 308dia pill leaves the muzzle faster, the smaller dia pill will catch up to and surpass the flatness of the larger dia pill's trajectory at a given "break even" point or range, and after that, will fly flatter due to greater retained energy. This is a result of sectional density being greater as well as BC higher, on a smaller pill of equal weight.
why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
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