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.45 BP revolving rifle ?

Tommy_2_pockets
I saw a .45 caliber black powder revolving rifle in a pawn shop priced at $250. There was no caliber designation or manufacturer's name on it, only proof marks. The clerk assured me it was an Uberti that retails for over $400.

I searched the GB auction for such a gun to find out a true value but could not locate anything like it. I came up empty with a google search as well.

I am skeptical about the claimed retail price as this pawnshop generally tries to get retail for most items. I also found it amusing that the clerk said it would be good for deer hunting; I think such a light rifle would have a nasty kick if loaded sufficiently heavy for deer.

Does Uberi manufacture guns without marking them with their name?

Assuming it is an Uberti, what would be a fair price?



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  • LEE33700
    Hello Tommy,
    Drop the loading lever and look on the barrel under it. The makers name or logo might be there. If it IS an Uberti, in very good condition, (in my opinion) that would be a fair price.
    For Uberti, Pietta, or Armi San Marco not to put the caliber and at least a logo is uncommon.
    There were some made with brass frames, (in my opinion) I wouldn't buy one of these.
    Lee
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  • rhmc24
    The info you got is true (more or less). Cabela's catalog shows a revolving carbine made as a Remington knock-off priced at $389. You can bring it up on 'cabelas.com' then in the search box type in 'black powder revolving'. Note revolving not revolv-er. Hope this helps.
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  • allen griggs
    If it is made by Uberti I bet it has the Uberti name on it.
    This is just a cap and ball pistol with a long barrel and a shoulder stock. With the long barrel it will have more power than the pistol.
    You could kill a deer with this gun, I wouldn't mind giving it a try, on a moderate sized deer at 15 yards or less. Make that lung shot and that deer is going to die.
    It is no kind of serious deer rifle and is not legal for deer in most states. Would be good on bunnies or grouse.
    The kick is not going to be bad, as it is a revolver you can only put so much powder in the gun, about 32 grains max.
    Whereas, in a .45 rifle, for a deer load, you would use double that.
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  • Tommy_2_pockets
    I looked at the gun again today. It is marked Uberti and .44 caliber under the loading lever. The clerk tried to tell me that "nobody makes bullets in .44" I didn't bother to correct him.

    Thanks for your help.

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  • jimbowby
    [8D]Yo Tommy, I have a Uberti .44 "Walker" Colt it uses Round 140gr .454 dia. bullets. They also make .44 cal-.433/.451 dia.[:o)][:o)][:)][:D]



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  • allechalley
    You also should check for date of manufacture/serial # as they and Cabelas had a recall on the early ones. There was a problem but I don't recall what it was. The rifle itself is fairly well made, but it does have similiar problems to the original Remington. One must be very sure to grease or patch the balls (really nasty chain fire), they were finicky about being clean (cylinder lockup) and the original Remington had a reputation for exploding without apparent reason(tho not the Uberti remake). Don't remember the reason the Remington did, tho might have been a metallurgy problem. I doubt that they would qualify for deer hunting but do check laws you intend hunting in, as I know I've been wrong before.
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  • timbroman
    Tommy, if it were I and I liked the rifle I would welcome the seller's admission to the unavailability of ammo as a primo bargaining point, worth say a $50.00 discount - that's probably about what a box of that obsolete ammo will cost, right? But even if you settle at halfway, well that's $25.00 and that's the kind of bump that makes trading fun for me.


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  • rsnyder55
    Of course, I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable placing my hands in front of the cylinder when firing.
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  • gruntled
    Dixie Gun Works catalog from 1999 lists it at $375. (Guess it's time to buy a new one.) Of course you put both hands on the pistol grip as there is no foregrip.
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    Yeah...! I've read of several Shooters getting Multible's and shooting thier own Hands off when 2 or 3 rounds went off at the same time...Nasty Surprise for sure.....I would'nt shoot it just for that reason......


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