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Unknown Pistol Break top

gentleshepherd
I found a 2 pistols today in a garage on land that I have purchased they are both old. Both are the same except 1 appears to be a bit older than the other. They are both break tops, I have been liquid wrenching them to get them to open.

There are no marking on either gun. It appears that they both might have had a chrome or nickel finish but it is worn off of both. The better of the two has a really nice set of grips, on this set of grips on both sides there is a target with 5 holes showing on it. It appears that this might be a 32 or maybe a 38. Not sure though.

There are no marks or numbers on either.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Please e-mail me as I travel quite a bit and might not be able to check this board.

Thanks.

Mike Shaffer
mikeshaf@ptd.net
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  • rufe-snow
    The "Target with 5 holes" is a marking that is found on older Harrington & Richardson Revolver Grips.

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  • bperdue21
    it is either a Iver Johnson Safety Hammer DA Revolver or a H&R automatic ejecting DA revolver. they both come in 38 S&W and 32 S&W so check that out at your gunsmith before shooting. i am thinking it is the IVER Johnson.

    When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
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  • gentleshepherd
    I was just e-mailed that it might be a H & R model 38. It is a 6 shot if that helps.

    Does anyone know what the value might be?
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  • bperdue21
    if it is a 6 shot then it is a 32. 32 S&W 6-shot double action 3 1/4, 4, 5, or 6 in barrels, hinged top break, blue or nickel finish, fixed sights, black rubber grips. mfg 1896-disc. 100% 160 98% 150 95%105 90% 90 80% 75 70% 65 60% 55.

    When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
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  • jimbowby
    [8D]Enfield made 6 shot hinged bbl's & also Webley in 1887 their value is anywhere from $100/500 depending on condition & *ID[xx(][xx(][xx(][:D]

    I'm only wearing Black untill they make something darker
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  • surbat6
    Your description fits MANY inexpensive revolvers made between 1880 and 1935 by a number of companies under hundreds of trade names. Cops used to call them "suicide specials" implying they were good for only one purpose (the anti-gunners' buzzword "Saturday night special" was cribbed from the older term). Most were nickel-plated, most were break-top designs, many had no serial number and most were chambered in .22, .32, or .38 S&W (NOT .38 special). I concur with Bperdue and Rufe-snow that one of your relics is an H&R (made better quality guns than most of the genre).32 caliber. Neither is worth much, even people who collect these revolvers seldom pay more than $100 for a specimen in excellent condition. A friend of mine usually pays $20 or $25 apiece.

    "I think of my gun as a tool for converting worthless human garbage into valuable fertilizer." John Dollar in the novel "Bridge City" by Fred Rexer
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