270 recoil
I am looking for a new rifle for my wife. She wants to start doing more long range target shooting, but doesn't want to deal with significant recoil. What is the recoil of a 270 like? I can get a good deal on a 270, but don't want to buy it and find the recoil is too much for her. I don't know anyone who has a 270 to let her shoot.
Then again, if I just buy it for her and she doesn't like it, that's another rifle for me! [:D]
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can, and the weaponry to make the difference.
Then again, if I just buy it for her and she doesn't like it, that's another rifle for me! [:D]
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can, and the weaponry to make the difference.
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A lot depends on the rifle. For instance, my 30-06 Browning BAR has much less "felt" recoil than my Ruger No 1 in .270. The #1 is a heavy rifle also. I find the recoil of the .270 to be considerable. Generally you should count on significant recoil out of most .270 rifle set-ups.
If its just long range target practice, how about a .223 or 22-250?
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As ROBIN stated, the rifle can make a big difference, however, I believe the shooter makes an even greater difference. Of all the topics in the shooting world I think that recoil is the most subjective. I, for one hate recoil. I own only 2 centerfires greater than .224 caliber for that simple reason. Bullet weight, velocity, if you handload, the powder choice and amount, can all effect recoil. I know fellows that regularly shoot 375 H&H, 458 WIN and one fellow that shoots a #1 Ruger in 416 Rigby and they seem to enjoy them as much as I enjoy my 224s. What is her level of experience with centerfire rifles? I doubt that you will find a greater fan of the 270 WIN than me, but after sitting at the bench for 40-50 rounds, even I begin to think that perhaps it isn't as much fun as I thought. Since you mentioned long range, I assume it will be either from a bench or prone with sling. This can be quite punishing to some people and absolutely nothing to others. Also what constitutes "long range", 300, 500, 1000 yards? As Robin also mentioned, a 223 or 22-250 would work well especially if it had a tight twist barrel so it would stabilize the 65-75 grain VLD type bullet. Without having something comparable for her to try, I say your final statement is VERY VALID. [;)]
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May I suggest to you the 6.5 X 55 or 7mm08?
The former has the recoil of a .243 and the ballistics of a 270. It can be had in many rifles; Winchester, Remington, Ruger, Sako, and various high quality military models suitable for hunting with little conversion. Ammo is made by Federal, Remington, Winchester, Norma (pricey) and several cheaper overseas brands. It is the IDEAL caliber for you want. It is also highly regarded for its inherent accuracy.
Regarding your choice of .270 - It depends on your wife. If she is a petite woman probably not. If she is a taller person (my wife could shoot a .270) then it is a GREAT caliber.
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Well I have a 10 year old cousin who shoots a .270 with not problems. He shoots a Remington model 700. You may also want to look at a .308.
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My Ruger Model 77 MkII(wood stock)
had very light recoil.[^]
The Browning A-bolt w/composite stock
that replaced it kicks the doo doo out of me.[:(]
BW
IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.0 -
6.5x55 in any variant.
I have shot everything from a 375, 300 win mag, '06, on down. Out of all the calibers, the 270, in my opinion, is the most unfavorable to shoot. I am 5'11" & 260 (big framed person).....you do the math.
I also just picked up a 7.5x55 Swiss K31...also a pleasure to shoot.
If shooting from a bench, get a heavier rifle if you must have a .270 caliber. I would pick the 6.5x55 first...then a .308 for long range shooting.0 -
You could also look at a Browning A-bolt with the Boss system. It will reduce recoil and you can buy the solid end as well for shooting it without a brake.
What about the 25-06? Seems like a good compromise as well.0 -
My 95 lb daughter shoots a 25-06 with 90 gr. bullets and never complained about recoil. I have shot it numerous times myself and it is milder than my 280 or my 308. Look at the ballistics on the calibers listed by all the responders and you will see the energy trends. More energy=more recoil!
Hope you find one she can live with.
F&AM, NRA Life (25 yrs)
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My son who is 15 and 6' tall shoots a Remington 700 ADL in .270. Recoil doesn't bother him, but the gun is somewhat light and I notice when he shoots on sand bags that he had a problem keeping the muzzle from rising up on him. My son started off on a HR single shot in .243. Very accurate rifle with very low recoil. We would site the .243 in at 50 yards since he didn't have much a shot after that, but at the range he was shooting good groups at 100 yards.
AMMO is also CHEAPER.
"Shoot Straight and Shoot often."0 -
Get BAR or a Remington 7400.
I WOULD RATHER BE DUCK HUNTING.0 -
If possible, have her shoot it a few times. Just a lot of factors contibute to how folks perceive recoil. How she shoulders the rifle, how tight does she hold it are the human part, weight of the rifle, stock design, weight of the bullet, how hot of a load all factor in on the rifle. Some you can change easily, some you cannot, a muzzle brake might be an option but keep in mind that it will direct some of the blast back towards the shooter.
Good luck and hope you have many years of enjoyable shooting ahead of you.0 -
I agree with Bobbywins I started out at 11 years old on a Ruger M-77 and I am a smaller guy, I handled it fine. Felt recoil was not that bad. But like all of the others have told you, its all in the eye of the beholder. My wife shoots my .270 win fine and she is 5-4 and 135 pounds. I think she would probably be ok, and like you said if not its always another rifle f[:D]or your collection. 0 -
recoil is a perceived thing. for example take 15# of potatoes.... is it as heavy to you as it is to me?
it is a mind set. recoil doesn't bother me. i have had blood dripping down my nose from a scope set to far back for me... i didn't let it bother me. i am a gunsmith and shoot alot of rifles for people who don't have time to sight them in for the upcoming season.i have seen my wife shoot a .375h&h for a customer, to verify poi.so it doesn't matter about caliber it's how it is perceived. a blgger man... recoil will effect more than a smaller framed man. it's called resistance, the larger man will absorb more recoil than a smaller man.so, how heavy is that 15# of potatoes to you??0 -
I own a .270 and it is a dream to shoot. With my own handloads it less than 1 MOA accurate. It is a hunting rifle but it is so incredibly accurate it is scary. It is much more pleasant to shoot than a .30-06 or even my .308. If I could only keep one rifle in my safe I would take the .270 and run.
I do not wish to steer you wrong. It goes bang and kicks a bit but it is really very mild. If your wife is really timid about recoil look at a .243 - another inherently accurate cartridge and a cream puff to shoot.
Good Luck!
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