Winchester 24's
I have owned a few 24's and was looking at one this week at a gun show with a english stock. Did winchester ever make these in a english grip? I know they would be easy to turn them into english grip but this on looked original, it was a 20 ga. a great looking little bird gun with mod and imp chokes. He wanted 900 bucks for it. thanks Todd
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I have never seen one in person but I have seen several for sale in the Gun List and on the net. Wildwood Inc. has a 98% 16 Ga. for sale right now for $1850.00
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sorry snickers but I could buy them all day at 1850. they go from 500 to about 1000. they were low end doubles. I still dont know if winchester actually made them in an english grip. hope someone does. 0 -
Hello cartod...
Yes, Winchester made Model 24s with English style buttstocks. The following is directly quoted from one of my many reference books;
"Stock - Plain walnut, pistol grip, semi-beavertail forearm, not checkered, checkered composition butt plate. Straight grip stocks furnished at no extra charge. Fancy walnut, checkered or not checkered, and stocks to customer's dimensions furnished at extra charge, on special order only."
Bert H.
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I hate to reply to my own topic but since "only Winchesters" must be on vacation I will tell you what I hav found. Snickers is right there is one here http://www.{elsewhere}.com/guns/976574403.htm for some 1700 dollars. If indeed the strait stock is real and not "cut" to look like an english than it is indeed rare. I have found that this stocks but is also straight and not curved to fit the shoulder like my other 24's. could it be that the original english grips were also staight at the butt and the pistol grips were curved at the but??? dont know! 0 -
cartod
You don't have to be sorry to me. I wouldn't pay half that for a 24. I was just stating there was one for sale at that price.
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You guys have it right. I always though 24s and 37s were proof that not all pre-64 Winchesters were great guns. 0 -
I happen to have a pre-war model 24, 20 ga., 26 in. barrels, that I use for bird hunting when the weather is too crappy to risk one of my Sterlingworths. Mechanically perfect, the barrel blue was about gone as was the stock finish. Reblued it, refinished the wood, and at a distance it looks like one of those $1850 guns from Wildwood. Doesn't exactly have the classic Fox or Parker lines, but it swings nicely, has open chokes, and the birds(when my pathetic wing shooting skills work right)never complain. -Asa 0 -
You are right ASA. The birds dont seem to do much complaing. I am a fan of pre 64 winchesters and I think that for what the 37's and 24's were (an inexpensive alternative) they are perfect. and the fact that not alot were made (24's) make them a great gun to collect and Shoot. Should you want to get rid of it there are plenty of people standing in line to take them off of you hands. The 20ga. are the most collectable and the ones in good shape continue to increase in value...the perfect investment...now if I can just convince my wife of this. 0 -
Hello cartod: (As well as everyone else!) Family emergency has taken me away from home for the most of March, but I'm here now! LOL
As Bert said, "english" stocks were an option. So if indeed the butt stock is original, (both the forearm and butt stock should have approx. the same wear, and color) this gun was most likely a "special order" gun. The butt plate after all these years may just be a "hair" shorter than the butt stock itself at the toe. (The bakilite butt plates shrink over time. As far as no curve, if the gun serial number is above 115000 , this would be correct. It was about 1954 or so Winchester started cutting all butt stocks straight. (Md 12, 24, 37, etc) Another cost saving "improvement" by Winchester.
The 20ga. Md 24 will command the most money,I seldom see one regardless of condition sell for less than $500, and if they are in 98% or better condition, it becomes a real sellers market. They made approx. 117000 Md 24s. It is believed that fewer than 20,000 were 20ga. Although there are no actual production records by gauge. In it's day for the money, it was hard to get a good "field grade" gun that was made better.
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The serial no. on this gun is 259xx. So this must mean that if this gun has an english stock with a strait sholder butt that the stock is a replacement, correct? Thanks.. 0 -
Hi cartod: Not necessarily. remember that would have been a "special order", (most likely) so the person ordering it may have given a specific LOP. Standard was 14 1/8 inch. Winchester would go plus or minus 1 inch for the LOP on a special order. so I will ask, what is the LOP from the front trigger to the center of the rear of the butt stock? If it's less than 14 1/8, there is a good possibility that Winchester Just shortened an existing stock, since this gun was made in 1942, and WWII government orders were now the main priority.
regards Dave0
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