Double Tap with a Revolver?
I know/heard of this method with auto's, but I can't say I've ever thought of it in terms of a revolver? I'm guessing you would need a light DA to be effective? (I'm a Court TV addict and it was refered to there[:)])
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It would be dang hard with a revolver. From what I know of it, your basicaly pulling the trigger at the exact moment your barrel returns to target which when done correctly is while the first shot is still ringing in the ears.
Or something to that extent I have never really tried it.0 -
You better not tell Jerry Miculek that, because he makes it look easy. 0 -
hcm - thanks for a name! 0 -
Jeez,
Haven't we all seen the "fanning" on the revolvers on the old movies.
It is real!
Do not leave it to the weenies though!0 -
Isn't a 'double tap' just 2 hits on one target?I see no problem dt'ing a revo,I do it all the time with my d/a .44 snubby.
Or am i missing something.....again.[8]
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You will not believe this, I don't believe it to this day and it happened to me. No one I know believes it or can figure out how it happened. Several years ago, I had a Smith Model 29 I abused considerably with handloads. Pushed it to it's limit and then some. One day, I was shooting some very hot loads in it, in front of a few witnesses, and the thing went "full auto" on me for two rounds, the first intentional, the second round probably ended up in the next county somewhere. I don't know how it happened. but two rounds went off in very rapid sequence, the second while under recoil from the first. It was NOTHING that had to do with trigger manipulation, very scary. 
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quote:Originally posted by boeboe
You will not believe this, I don't believe it to this day and it happened to me. No one I know believes it or can figure out how it happened. Several years ago, I had a Smith Model 29 I abused considerably with handloads. Pushed it to it's limit and then some. One day, I was shooting some very hot loads in it, in front of a few witnesses, and the thing went "full auto" on me for two rounds, the first intentional, the second round probably ended up in the next county somewhere. I don't know how it happened. but two rounds went off in very rapid sequence, the second while under recoil from the first. It was NOTHING that had to do with trigger manipulation, very scary.
From what I hear it is happening nowadays with the new 500 S&W Magnum revolver quite often. Seems to be a "spasmic" finger reaction to the super/extra heavy recoil of the load. But I would not call that a double tap, more like an accidental discharge.
Quite a few people shoot IPSC with revolvers and do their double tapping very smoothly and accurately. They even make an "8 shooter" for that purpose.[:D][:D][:D][8D][8D]
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"If it ain't broke, fix it anyway... make it better!" (RadCat)0 -
quote:Originally posted by boeboe
You will not believe this, I don't believe it to this day and it happened to me. No one I know believes it or can figure out how it happened. Several years ago, I had a Smith Model 29 I abused considerably with handloads. Pushed it to it's limit and then some. One day, I was shooting some very hot loads in it, in front of a few witnesses, and the thing went "full auto" on me for two rounds, the first intentional, the second round probably ended up in the next county somewhere. I don't know how it happened. but two rounds went off in very rapid sequence, the second while under recoil from the first. It was NOTHING that had to do with trigger manipulation, very scary.
Look, that's physically impossible.
If you didn't cock the gun after the first shot, how could the cylinder turn to get the second round in place? If the gun fired twice, and you didn't cock it to turn the cylinder in between shots, the second round HAD to have been fired double-action.
There is no other reasonable explanation for how the second round was loaded, so I'll bet the last poster was dead on. The force, noise, and blast of the high-recoil first round probably caused to you non-deliberately squeeze off a second double-action shot right after the first. The sting to your hand from the first round probably meant that you couldn't feel the second one.
I think what the earlier posterf you fired off two shots in a row, you either
If you don't cock the gun
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I'm guessing the shooter with the "full-auto" .44 actually had something like this happen:
1. He had a very tight grip on the gun.
2. He pulled the trigger.
3. The gun recoiled back and up, and his trigger finger was forced forward by the trigger return spring.
4. Almost instantly, he started to reflexively flinch, pulling the gun down and clenching all of his fingers, including his trigger finger.
5. Between the gun moving, and his clenching trigger finger, he was able to fire a second shot unusually quickly.
BTW, Miculek doesn't have a light trigger on his gun, he's got some extra heavy strings to help the trigger return faster. He can shoot faster than the standard trigger return spring can push the trigger forward!!! [:0]
A correct double-tap should be just two aimed shots. If you're not aiming both of them, you're shooting faster than you can see and need to slow down a bit and practice until you can fire two aimed shots at a faster pace.0 -
To be considered a "double tap" the 2 shots do not have to be at "machine gun " speed. A double tap is just 2 quick shots on the same target, granted it would be difficult to do a double tap with a bolt action rifle.
Double taps with a revolver are not hard to do. I compete with Jerry Miculek every year at the I.R.C. and Iam not nearly as fast as he is, but I can shoot 2 revolver shots in .5 sec. This is an average speed for revolver competitors.
I agree with beantown, it is not mechanically possible for boeboe's model 29 to go full auto. The trigger had to have been pulled for the second shot.
Joe
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