ar15 question
I have a fellow who wants to trade an AR for another item I have and has given me the description below. He has two AR's for trade, but I really don't know what 6.8 SPC is, or stands for.
"I've got one in 6.8 SPC and one in 5.56/.223."
I already have an HBAR Colt, but would not mind having another to shoot, I just want to understand the difference.
EDIT:
I did a search on 6.8 in the forum. Disregard my inquiry.
EDIT II
Armalite,
Thanks for the description. Now, I need to decide if I should trade for the 6.8 or the 5.56. Since I akready have the 5.56 in the HBAR model, I may make the trade for the 6.8. Who knows, the ammo looks pricey and it may be just another "gimick" like the 45GAP. A round that may be harder to get as time goes on.
Thanks,
Aaron
"I've got one in 6.8 SPC and one in 5.56/.223."
I already have an HBAR Colt, but would not mind having another to shoot, I just want to understand the difference.
EDIT:
I did a search on 6.8 in the forum. Disregard my inquiry.
EDIT II
Armalite,
Thanks for the description. Now, I need to decide if I should trade for the 6.8 or the 5.56. Since I akready have the 5.56 in the HBAR model, I may make the trade for the 6.8. Who knows, the ammo looks pricey and it may be just another "gimick" like the 45GAP. A round that may be harder to get as time goes on.
Thanks,
Aaron
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AM CONSIDERING THE PURCHASE OF AN AR15 ,LOOKING AT OLYMPIC ARMS 223 PLINKER AND ARMALITE M15 A4 FLAT TOP. THE OLYMPIC IS ABOUT 250.00 CHEEPER,,IS IT WORTH THE SAVINGS? DO THEY BOTH ACCEPT STANDARD AR15 ACCESSORIES ,CLIPS,SIGHTS,FURNITURE ETC. THANKS,,,,,
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DWolfAz:First let me say welcome to GB. I think you will hear the same from many here is the A B & C of AR rifles. Armalite, Bushmaster and Colt. I like Bushmaster alot. If you have the money Colt is a collector type rifle and I never met an Armalite I did not like. Since you are starting out so to speak I would not recomend you build your own first. Just my 2 cents. I hoped this helped and welcome again to GB. [8D]
Greg
Former Marine
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gap1916 is right start out by buying a complete gun. I have had great luch with bushmaster. I had the varmiter and also a 40 Cal. upper to put on the base. But the ABC of AR-15 is a great way to go another that I have shot and was a full auto (law enforcement gun) so we put many rounds threw it and it worked great was. Dpms out of Minnesota and that guns was awsome. Had it in the M4 short carbine and it worked like a charm. One thing I have found is that ammo can play a huge part on how the gun performs such that reloads or remanufactured ammo did not work as well may cause jamming. Awsome gun and a must for all gun guys.
Hope this helped any more question let me know0 -
I thought the rule was A. B, C, D for DPMS???? 0 -
thanks for the advice.-dave 0 -
I would stay away from ASA. I bought one of their lower parts kits years ago, and nothing but trouble.
I would go with DPMS, Armalite, or Bushmaster. As previously mentioned, buy a complete rifle. Unless you are qualified and have the proper tools, putting one together from parts will be a real headache.
There are a lot of things you can mess up without the proper knowledge. I have been throught the Colt AR-15/ M-16 armorers school and if you are not trained to put these together, I would suggest you not try it.
Joe
"Never let school interfere with your education"0 -
Are you really flush or something ?
I want an AR type too, but the bucks are scarce. Most folks that are starting up buy more economical weapons. You get more guns to shoot and get familiar with a greater number of different things while using less money. People get a LOT of mileage out of an SKS, and there are enough variants to keep things interesting. When you first take apart an SKS or MAK, you shake your head at how simply it is put together, and that it fires after pulling it out of a sandpile.
.....just a suggestion. ENJOY0 -
Are you really flush or something ?
I want an AR type too, but the bucks are scarce. Most folks that are starting up buy more economical weapons. You get more guns to shoot and get familiar with a greater number of different things while using less money. People get a LOT of mileage out of an SKS, and there are enough variants to keep things interesting. When you first take apart an SKS or MAK, you shake your head at how simply it is put together, and that it fires after pulling it out of a sandpile.
.....just a suggestion. ENJOY0 -
I love my AR (AR-10A2 carbine), but if you are just looking for a good semi-auto rifle that won't break the bank, I would suggest a Ruger Mini-14. They run about $550-$600 and are a lot of fun. They can be accurized and there are countless accessories. I have a 3-9x40mm scope on mine; it will shoot ~1.5" groups @ 100 yds. with the best ammo, usually closer to 2.5". But they are rock-solid reliable so long as you use good qulity magazines. If you keep your eyes open, you may find a decent used AR-15 for around $700. But a good AR is never cheap. My AR-10 was $1513 out the door.
It's easy to spot liberals-they are the ones who have no assets to protect and need every handout they can get. They have forbeyed themselves ascendence to a productive lifestyle.0 -
A good solid reliable AR?
I am on another forum where my question above came up and it ended it a bit of a nasty free for all. I don't want that. Seems like AR's have their fans and their foes. I have an Armalite AR10-A2 and love it. I have read good and bad on AR's and am in no position to comment one way or another. So I have no bias other than wanting one in 556.
Here is my question:
What would you all recommend for someone who is looking for a 556 caliber AR for all around defense "needs" and not range/target work? It must be durable, reliable, and not prone to "jams." In other words, if the feathers hit the fan, which one would you grab that you would bet your life on?
I wanted to ask this on that other forum but after I saw how bent out of shape some folks got I though no way. I realize there will be differences of opinion so any help I am all ears.0 -
I bought a kit for ASA and it was complete junk. Gas port was drilled too deep (down into the bottom of the bore), chamber was undersized due to a worn out chamber reamer, and the barrel wasn't lined up properly with the upper reciever (screwed it in to far). It was junk. I listed the full kit on gunbroker (everything but stripped lower) for $275 and didn't get a bid. Sold it to a guy I worked with (minus the lower)for $200. He couldn't get it to work either and sold it at a gunshow with his olympic arms lower for $400. I feel sorry for whoever bought it. I have built several AR's for people using JT distributing kits. I was referred to them by a class III guy who had a few M16's. They use good stuff and you can get everything but the stripped lower from them for about $450. Get a stripped lower for about $100, add the shipping in for both (and the transfer fee for the lower to your FFL) and you can get a nice AR for around $600. Stay away from ASA, Hesse, and Vulcan (vulcan used to be hesse). They all make junk. Model 1 sales and JT dist are both good sources of kits and parts for AR's. I'd go with a Bushy or olympic arms stripped lower, of if you are worried about assembaly, get a complete lower, but a parts kit from JT or Model 1 (the whole kit isn't much more than just the upper half), and there are two pins to "build" build the gun, and then you have extra lower internals. Whatever you decide to do, DON'T get an ASA! 0 -
I have an ASA 24inch bull barrel with a wilson airguaged barrel, it hangs with the best.Dont know about the lowers. I favor the Olympic and Armalite lowers, Eagle Arms as well. My favorite is the Olympic
mulit-caliber lower. I use it on my dmps upper in 7.62x39 and my DPMs
10.5 inch upper. Both work excellent. I would go with the guys..advice. but buy a heavy or medium barrel. stay away from the plinkers with the pencil barrels. they get HOT.
Armalite, Bushmaster, Colt DPMS by all means..but dont forget Olympic0 -
Since you are new..Here is the best advice I can give you.
Get a 1/9 twist, you can use a variety of bullet weights 55-69grain
with great accuracy. It is preferred by most shooting clubs.
1/7 twist shoots the 62grain
1/8 twist is for the 69-75grain heavy stuff,
1/12 twist is for your super fast varmint loads 40-55 grain
The slower bullets need more twist, the lighter bullets need less twist.
To shoot a real fast light bullet out of a 1/8 or 1/7 twist would get no stablility, and would strip the jacket off of the bullet.No accuracy, horrible grouping.
Also on an AR15, barrel length is not crucial. you dont lose much out of a 16inch barrel as opposed to a 24inch..Here is a link you will find most educational..Have fun. http://www.accuratereloading.com/223sb.html0 -
I sell these lowers on the auction site. Very high quality. I have uppers and upper kits.
http://www.forthehunt.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?item=29914553
Dave0 -
Might as well throw "E" in the mix as well ...
... Eagle Arms bought Armalite, but everything I've seen says Eagle is a division of Armalite.
As suggested, I'd stay away from building your own unless your going to have someone with experiance help you assemble it..
Member Since 8/29/19990 -
AR'S are like candy once you have one you will want more. There are so many ways you can change it around barrels, grips, rails, triggers. I have been an ar owner for quite some time and am just starting to build my own. From what i have learned so far i would advise you to buy a complete weapon from any of the major brands that are out there first. Wait untill you have some time behind the trigger before you go building your own. This way you will know exactly what you want to do different on your "build". The best place i have found for help is AR15.COM look under build your own section you will have all the help you need once you gain the proper understanding of how they function.
From all that i have read stay away from asa but i have never tried them first hand. I agree with one of the above posts JT kits are very good everything fits like a glove and they use great parts. Good luck0
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