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cannibus
which would you recommend for a first handgun, a glock 20 in 10mm or a walther p99 in .40? this would be for CCW purposes
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  • cannibus
    I'm fairly new to pistols having only shot a .22, .38, .40 and a 9mm. I am in the market for a new pistol and was wondering how a .357 w/ a 6 inch barrel matches up to a .40 semi-auto in recoil and performance? I really like the .40's but thought I might want something for hunting as well as protection purposes.
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  • bpost
    I recommend a .22 so you can practice a lot and learn proper pistol shooting techinque. Then you can get your carry gun and feel confident with it. If you insist on getting your carry pistol as your first handgun I recommend that you go to a indoor range that will let you shoot several different models so you can see which one fits you best. Good luck.
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  • Hunter375
    While I adore the 10mm auto and own several, it is not a good beginner cartridge. 9mm would be more suitable and certainly less expensive. As for the G-20 as a CCW weapon, while it is plenty reliable it is also a rather large pistol and I would bet on it becoming an irritation. If you want a 10mm for CCW, I would opt for the G-29 or EAA witness compact (I carry a Witness Compact 10mm every day). Both have 10 rd. mags. If you opt for the .40 you have infinitely more gun options, but I still recommend compacts or semi-compacts for CCW. I know there is a compact variant of the Walther/S&W model 99. I have no experience with these, but Walther has always made quality products.

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  • glockmatt
    To stay on the original posters question. Both 10mm and .40 are fine round but may be a little bulky for CCW. Winter or Summer carry can make a difference? In colder States with heavy clothing a more powerful round may be a good idea. Although it defies my name I highly suggest Kahr P9 or PM9 for CCW. In 9mm, slim, and light. Easily concealable and a very reliable DAO (Double action only), no external safety to fumble with. The down side to Kahr, not good for 1000's of rounds at the range. Glocks don't have that problem. The Glock 26, also 9mm but thicker. Can consider Glock 27, in .40 but uncomfortable to shoot without mag extenstion. Glock 23, in .40 larger frame but still compact, need a jacket to keep concealed.

    Some States, like mine CA. Will not allow calibers smaller than .38 on a CCW.
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  • Bill Costik
    I hate to get off topic. but recommending a 9mm or .40 S&W for a first pistol, is, in my opinion, a little irresponsible. You should learn the basics of pistol handling and safety with a .22 before upgrading to a larger caliber. Get a Ruger or Browning pistol before you get anything else.
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  • ATF
    quote:Originally posted by Bill Costik
    I hate to get off topic. but recommending a 9mm or .40 S&W for a first pistol, is, in my opinion, a little irresponsible. You should learn the basics of pistol handling and safety with a .22 before upgrading to a larger caliber. Get a Ruger or Browning pistol before you get anything else.


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  • ATF
    quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
    I recommend a .22 so you can practice a lot and learn proper pistol shooting techinque. Then you can get your carry gun and feel confident with it. If you insist on getting your carry pistol as your first handgun I recommend that you go to a indoor range that will let you shoot several different models so you can see which one fits you best. Good luck.

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  • cannibus
    i should have posted that i've shot the glock before but not the p99...ive shot every caliber of handgun from .22 to 44mag, in everything from a semi to a revolver
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  • targetshooter
    The 10mm is quite a hand full. I would go with a 9mm or the 40S&W. Which ever one you shoot the best. Including follow up shots.

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  • Python
    Cannibus;
    Since you are familiar with hand guns I would still recommend a NRA approved or local law enforcemnet sponcers Defensive/Combat shooting course. Concealed carry presents a number of things not considered at the range or your home. Legal Liability springs to mind.
    The 10mm can be over kill, no pun intended, in this situation. Collateral damage will not be well tolerated. I suggest calibers and loads to limit over penetration as much as possible. The trial - personal injury lawyer will have a field day with your assets in the event of someone catching a bullet fired through an assialent. the 40 S&W or 9mm are good choices. There are many loads in the penetration inhibiting class for them. the 10mm is a bit trickier by virtue of it's own ballistics, it is a near match for the 357 mag. Talk to your local police, sheriff, Gunsmiths. Do a little research and find a caliber you can live with, a pistol you can indeed conceal, fire accurately, and not worry too much about accidently hitting two peaple with the same round. Concealed Carry brings with it a lot of baggage. You have to protect yourself from thugs, especially the ones that wear Armonie, but,and most importantly, you have to protect others from unitended bullet wounds. Good luck with your decision, personally, I carry a Colt Commander .45ACP. I like the gun and the cartridge, it is a good balance of power and penetration control.

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  • cannibus
    ok, thanks for the info, ive already taken a pistol course for concealed carry...but i may take it again just to brush up on the laws...and python as far as the colt commander goes, im not a big guy, so a gun like that would stick out like a sore thumb on someone my size...after shooting a glock 23 yesterday i think thats what im going to go with for a carry pistol...small enough for concealment and powerful enough to stop a perp...however i do think ill purchase the 10mm as well maybe as my "under the pillow" go to gun
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  • sendero270hunter
    i'd start off with a 22 as well. if ur interested in wather's p99, a great starter pistol would be walther's p22. It's the same style, but in 22. I bought one last spring, and i'm impressed with it. it was my first pistol, and from it i've learned alot about shooting pistols, but only after a few thousand rounds. that's why starting off with a 22 is such a great idea...cheap to practice with! now that i've aquired some skills, i'm ready to move up to a larger caliber.
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  • sendero270hunter
    haha guess i'm a little late, better work on my typing skills
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