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jcalex2
Beginning black powder hunting...

What would be a good muzzleloader for small amount of money?

Could some of you guys tell me about the various firearm manufacturers...Who is good, Who to avoid.

Been shopping... some of the names I have came across are CVA, NEF, American Arms, Thompson, Remington, Winchester, Italian--Palmetto Arms, Century, among others.

What the consensus, guys? What would you buy under $200? over $200? over $400?

Thanks for the help,

bhensen114


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  • jdrr
    Stay away from CVA cheap, and not too accurate. You can probably pick up a good Knight for about $200.00 the best way would be since you are a beginner is to get a complete package put out by Thompson Center Arms. They have a complete kit with all you need to start hunting. The model is called the Black Diamond. The rifles are very accurate.

    Good Luck
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  • 11B40
    Hello and you need to supply more info! What would you be hunting?
    Do you want to use old school or the new (cheater imo) styles?
    If you choise the old school, cap of flint? With this info the fellers who know the current stuff will advise you. My hunting smoke poles are all homemade and using a mix of Numrich arms,Hopkins Allen, Dixie Gun works, H & H Barrel works. See how old I am [:D]

    Salt is for steak, Not roads!
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  • eastwood44mag
    I have a CVA and it's a tack driver. MagBolt 150, with a 295 gr. Hollowpoint Powerbelt and 2 50 gr. Pyrodex pellets, I can get 3-shot groups touching at 100 yards.

    Cheap isn't necessarily bad. Mine was a stainless camo for $170. Knight for $200 is real unlikely, unless you have connections.

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  • rayl380
    Over $400? I love my .50 Savage ML-10 II because it uses 209 primers and shoots smokeless powder. With it I can propel a saboted 250-grain Hornady XTP at 2300 fps and with great accuracy. No special care required in cleaning, just the same routine as any other smokeless powder firearm. Available in blued, stainless, camo, black, and all combinations thereof. I think the newest ones may even have AccuTrigger. Mine does not, but I still love it a lot.

    Of course, it is far from traditional, so if you're more inclined in that direction it wouldn't do at all.
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  • allechalley
    Check the law where you intend to hunt, as some states have a different definition of "primitive arm". Some places it can't be any more modern than side lock or flintlock. Others accept inlines, but can't use shotgun primer. Others yet will allow telescopic sight others won't. Last dealer I asked said the latest and best were those that had the break open breech or the ones where the trigger guard pulls down for ease of priming, wet proof and easiest to clean. Look around as you will find some new and slightly used without the latest features at real bargain prices (saw an as new Knight 85 for $175 just last week). Black powder rifle is "off season" now and with the gun show circuit running, check the shops and shows for deals now.
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  • allen griggs
    For under $200 get a NEF Sidekick, or a Knight Wolverine.
    In the $400 range get the TC Omega or the Savage. I would include the Knight Disc Elite but it is discontinued. Google it up, there were some on closeout for $300 a few weeks ago, what a deal. The Knight Disc Extreme is a good one too. I have a Savage and it is a great gun.
    Go to a good store and see how the guns shoulder up. You can't go wrong with any of these. Cabelas sells the Sidekick for $160.
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  • sheepdip
    Try this:http://muzzleloader.biz/
    Good stuff.
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  • WindLaker
    I have a CVA Hawken I built from a kit over 15 years ago and it too is a tack driver. It'll hit a paper plate consistantly at 100 yds. For me, that is plenty good for deer hunting.

    WindLaker
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  • hadjii
    I haven't heard anybody mention the Remington muzzleloaders. I have 3 of them. I shoot one, my wife shoots one, and my 14 year old daughter shoots one. They are shooting machines. I wouldn't trade one of them for all the knights or CVA'S or Thompsons in the world. I can't even remember how many deer we've shot with them, yet nobody seems to give them any respect.
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