help with rifle identification
I saw a 7.62 x 39 bolt action rifle, with what appeared to be a Mauser type action, in a store for sale. I have been looking for a bolt action in this caliber, but have never heard of the rifle manufacturer, or even who it is.
The file is marked with sort of a star, or other crest, and it says "Estados Unidos", and the store owner told me this was the brand. Never heard of it. Only thing I can find is that Savage may have made some shotguns for Brazil military with this logo or brand.
Any help appreciated, in terms of manufacturer, experience, good quality, accurate, etc. It's a little beat up (like me), but may be a good shooter.
The file is marked with sort of a star, or other crest, and it says "Estados Unidos", and the store owner told me this was the brand. Never heard of it. Only thing I can find is that Savage may have made some shotguns for Brazil military with this logo or brand.
Any help appreciated, in terms of manufacturer, experience, good quality, accurate, etc. It's a little beat up (like me), but may be a good shooter.
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I doubt this will help much, but "Estados Unidos" is espanol for United States.
Any chance you can post a pic of the proofmark or trademark? Any other marks?0 -
This may not be the model but is this what the crest looks like? 
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yes, nononsense, that is it, exactly. The action was stainless colored like the one in your photo. Mauser conversion?
I appreciate all the help. Oh, and there were no markings at all on the barrel (at least none that I saw). I have a commercial Mauser, and enjoy it.0 -
oldoneeye,
I'm not sure about a conversion but this particular model is a 1908 Brazilian. I think that Mark is probably right with the Model 1894 and both are 7x57. The 1908 has the Greek letters Alpha and Beta stamped in all of the major parts and the fore end does not have the finger grooves. This is from CollectibleArms.
Itajuba Mauser 1894
Notes: This weapon is virtually identical to the Spanish Mauser 1893, except for a cylindrical bolt-head, and a rounded magazine-follower head (so that the bolt could be shut on an empty chamber after the magazine was empty). The 1894 Carbine was similar, but was much smaller with a shorter barrel. In addition, the carbine had a sight graduated for shorter ranges, a straight bolt handle, and there was no bayonet lug. The Model 1904 is a further modification of the Itajuba-built Mauser 1894, with a pistol-grip stock, a slightly-shorter barrel, and slightly lighter weight.
http://www.pmulcahy.com/battle_rifles/brazilian_battle_rifles.htm0 -
Ummm CZ is selling a new Mauser style sporter in 7.62x39. You should be able to find one on the GB auction site.
Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.0 -
I appreciate the information. That sounds about right, I will go back and look at the gun and verify. However, this one was not a 7 x 57, but a 7.62 x 39 - unless the shop is just confused, which may be the case. Or, unless converting it to that caliber is easy. This rifle has a regular hunting rifle wooden stock, no sights, and the barrel is tapped and drilled for mounts - probably someone's pet project that didn't trun out real well. I appreciate all the advice, and I will check out the CZ's - thanks. 0
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