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snakeeyes
This is a repost of a previous topic. At first I thought that this might have been some type of Colt pocket pistol, but from the feedback I've recieved on the previous post, I believe it is a Harrington and Richardson. I did some searching, and I found a similar model called a "Banker's Special .32 Short". This makes sense, since my dad said the bore looks like a .32, but a .32 long stuck out the other side of the cylinder.

There are very limited markings on the pistol, and the marking we have been able to find take a magnifying glass to read.

On top of the barell there is stamped either "Colt sp f" or "Colt sp 6" (which is why I had origianlly thought this to be a colt pocket pistol). There is also a stamp on the side of barell that reads "Patented August 5," the year seems to be behind the seam of the barell and the body of the gun. We were able to locate a serial number "4812" under the left grip.

If anyone can help me identify this pistol, it would be greatly appreciated.

[img]http://usera.ImageCave.com/idzgydz/Colt Pistol 2.JPG[/img]

[img]http://usera.ImageCave.com/idzgydz/Colt Pistol.JPG[/img]
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  • snakeeyes
    I am having trouble identifying a pistol.It is a 7.65 32acp
    Markings are as follows slide left side 7.65 1915 AUTOMATIC PISTOLL GUERRE
    PARAMOUNT CAL.32
    On the right side behind the trigger
    SPAIN
    On the grips
    PARAMOUNT
    Thanks in advance for any help you can give me
    snakeeyes
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  • rufe-snow
    It's one of the many "Ruby Type" pistols attributed to the Retolaza Brothers of Eibar Spain. These "Ruby Type" pistols were first manufactured during the First World War under military contracts from France. Many different Spanish Manufacturers produced them over a period of almost 20 years till the Spanish Civil War in the mid 30's.

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  • nononsense
    Is this like the one you have?

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    Spanish made WWI French military contract "Ruby" type semi-automatic pistol in 7.65mm cal. Manufactured in the period of 1914-1918 by Retolaza Hermanos, Eibar. Blowback design based on John Brownings FN/Colt M.1903. The left side of the slide is marked,"7.65 1914 MODEL AUTOMATIC PISTOL CAL.32". Some Spanish proofs stamped on the frame. Wooden grips with diamond checkering. 9 shot magazine. "RH" inside the oval stamped on the left grip tang.
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  • snakeeyes
    Thanks Folks
    There isn'tthe oval seal and instead of 1914 it's 1915 any idea on the worth
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  • nononsense
    This particular pistol is offered by Collectable Firearms for $325.00 but from what I've seen, they can be a bit on the high side...

    http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/

    It is posted on another auction site so e-mail me if you want that contact. I won't post it here, that would be bad form.

    Best.

    Added:

    1KYDSTR,

    Thank you for the acknowledgement. I swore when I joined that I couldn't possibly write this much... But it's hard to not be around folks that you like. Good thing I'm self employed!

    Best.
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  • 1KYDSTR
    Hey NonNonSense...congrats on your 1000th post!!!!!

    "When I cease learning...I'm dead"(Me)
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    "You get a lot farther with a kind word and a gun than you do with a kind word alone!"(Al Capone)
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