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  • Mballistic
    I just finished filling out my C&R renewal and was surprised to see question #8 ask my if I have, or planned to do any internet sales. It then went on to ask which site(s) I planned to use. I don't remember that last time, any idea as to when that appeared?
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  • He Dog
    If person to person transfers are legal in your state, you could sell to someone withouth any 4473. Because a C&R does not make you a dealer, no 4473 is needed. You get a copy of ID such as drivers license, and record the sale in your bound book. You should make every effort to determine that the person can legally buy the firearm.
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  • duckhunter
    What state??

    I WOULD RATHER BE DUCK HUNTING.
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  • firstharmonic
    Here's "chapter and verse" that should answer you. This is a C&P from a FAQ page from http://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/2001index.htm

    Are licensed collectors transfers of curio or relic firearms subject to the Brady law, including the provision for making background checks on transferees?

    No. Transfers of curio or relic firearms by licensed collectors are not subject to the requirements of the Brady law. However, it is unlawful to transfer a firearm to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person is a felon or is within any other category of persons prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms.

    [18 U.S.C. 922 (d), 27 CFR 178.32 (d), 18 U.S.C. 922(t)]

    Can a licensed collector sell a curio or relic shotgun or rifle to a nonlicensed resident of another state?

    Yes. A licensed collector is specifically authorized to sell a curio or relic shotgun or rifle to a nonlicensed resident of another State so long as 1.) The purchaser meets with the licensee in person at the licensee's premises to accomplish the transfer, sale, and delivery of the rifle or shotgun; and 2.) The sale, delivery, and receipt of the rifle or shotgun fully comply with the legal conditions of sale in both such states.

    [27 CFR 178.96 (c)(1)]




    Are licensed collectors required to execute ATF Form 4473 for transactions in curio or relic firearms?

    No. Licensed collectors are only required to keep a "bound book" record.

    [27 CFR 178.125(f)]



    Noli Illegitimi Carborundum
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  • Mballistic
    Thanks for the answers guys. Duck, it is Penna.
    Jeff
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