7X30 ammo
is the 7X30 a good round
and is it accurate?
Shadow62
and is it accurate?
Shadow62
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Do you mean the 7-30 Waters?
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quote:Originally posted by Hunter375
Do you mean the 7-30 Waters?
Yes
Shadow62
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I have a t/c contender carbine in 7x30 waters , nice shooting little rifle , groups run around 1 inch at 100 yards off the brench , with factory ammo ,,
factory ammo can be hard to get depending on your area and can be a little more expensive , but if you reload you can just use 30-30 and resize it down to 7mm or you can do what I do and that is to look for it at gun show and pawn shops , it seems you can get some pretty good deals this way0 -
Never shot one in a rifle length barrel but it's a super caliber in the 14"contenders, with above average accuracy.
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While I cannot attest to accuracy (which is more a function of firearm than cartridge) the 7-30 Waters is a great moderate range medium game gun. It is fairly popular in wooded eastern states for white tail hunting, where ranges seldom exceed 100-150 yards. If you hunt in the west, I would suggest something with a bit more reach (and punch, since the muleys out here can approach the size of cow elk). The best comparison I can think of is that the 7-30 is to the .30-30 as the .280 is to the .30-06. For it's intended purpose, it is a good round. But if it is to be your only hunting rifle, I would go with .30-06 or the like.
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Here is a fairly comprehensive article about the 7-30 Waters. There is even some reloading information at the end of it. This is just a bit of the whole article, use the link to see the rest of it.
The 7-30 Waters: Unknown Gem
Developed in 1978 by longtime gun guru Ken Waters as a better round for lever guns like the Model 94 Winchester, the 7-30 Waters offers higher velocity, greater energy, flatter trajectory and less recoil than its .30-30 parent. On top of that, it does all those things using bullets with better ballistic properties than the .30-30. In addition, it is one of the premier chamberings for the Thompson Center Contender. Never heard of it, you say? That's just exactly the problem. I, for one, simply cannot understand why the shooting world hasn't taken this beautifully balanced cartridge to its heart, but Western hunters at least seem largely unaware of its existence. Long-range Contender shooters, however, are another story. Fred Smith of Bullberry Barrel Works, a maker of custom Contender barrels, tells me it's one of their hottest sellers here in the West. And when you consider its record, that's not hard to understand. According to Smith, a shooter named Robert Campbell won the Colorado Long Range Competition three times with a Bullberry 7-30 Waters barrel, most recently with a 3-shot group of 31/32" - fired from 500 meters! Despite these impressive credentials, there's been hardly any hoopla in the gun media about the 7-30 Waters. Perhaps that's because at the moment it is chambered only in the Winchester Model 94 Angle Eject and in the T/C Contender. Lever guns are an action type that usually draws yawns from most of the shooting press. Then too, the cartridge wears a rim instead of a belt; and the word "magnum" is nowhere to be heard in its neighborhood.I view the 7-30 as a superb deer round for both lever rifles and the Contender. It is ideal for youths, women and men who don't like recoil. It is eminently useful for antelope, black bear, wild boar, caribou and possibly even smallish elk. Although available in only a single factory loading, the Federal (P730A) ammo carries the excellent 120-grain Nosler flat tip boat tail. For Model 94 owners who handload, either that bullet (catalog number 41722) or the 139-grain flat point from Hornady will have to do. Those are the only flat tip bullets in 7mm listed by bullet makers that I could locate. Such a lack of bullets compatible with tubular magazines makes the 7-30's anonymity a Catch-22 scenario. If there were more Model 94/7-30 Waters shooters, there'd be a broader selection of bullets; but shooters won't be attracted unless there are more bullets. Contender shooters (and Model 94 owners who load their guns as two-shooters only), however, aren't limited to flat point bullet designs. Such shooters are free to use any of the great bullets available in 7mm diameter. Virtually every bullet manufacturer makes several choices from 100 to 140 grains, the 7-30's useful range. A quick scan of catalogs on my shelf shows four each from Sierra, Speer and Nosler, plus seven from Hornady and two from Barnes. Of special note is the Hornady 120-grain spitzer (#2811), which is expressly designed for big game use in single-shot pistols. Created by necking down the .30-30 case and moving the shoulder forward, 7-30 Waters brass has an average water capacity of 40 grains. In addition to virgin brass from Federal, reloaders can get cases by shooting factory ammo or reforming .30-30 brass. To do the latter, just run unfired or once-fired .30-30 cases through your regular 7-30 sizing die. This will reduce the case neck to 7mm, and also will leave a funny-looking double shoulder. Now select nearly any starting load from a current loading manual, preferably using one of the faster powders. Starting loads will give good loading density in the reduced capacity cases, yet will give sufficient pressure to fireform the brass. After firing, the case that comes out of the chamber will be a fully formed 7-30 Waters. From here on, work up your load as usual. But be sure to keep reformed cases separate from those with original 7-30 Waters headstamps. Reformed cases can vary in capacity, which can sometimes change pressures drastically.Powder choices for the 7-30 Waters include medium-fast to medium-slow burners, a very large range indeed. Proven choices for the 7-30 Waters include Reloder 7 and 12, IMR 4320, and 4064, H335 and 414, both of the 4895's, W748 and 760, AA 2015BR and 2520, plus Hodgdon's new Benchmark and Ramshot's TAC. Some slightly slower powders also give good results, but at the expense of added muzzle flash and blast, especially in short barrels. Standard primers are sufficient. I used CCI Bench Rest or Federal 210 primers for all loads.
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