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  • victorlvlb
    Okay so I finally did buy an sks. I need the wrench that adjusts the front post sight. It looks like the yogo's did it defferant then everyone else.Most of the sites I have been to say thier tool will not fit or work on a yogo.Can anyone give me a hand?

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  • mark christian
    Sort of middle of the road and depends on condition and variation: Model 59 (no grenade launcher) or 59/66 (with the launcher). I see the Yugos selling from $120 to $175.

    "Nothing can ever be made 'idiot proof' because idiots are simply too clever"!
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  • Bill Costik
    If you look around you could find ones for around 100 dollars. 150 isn't too bad if you really want one but I would what to find one with a lower price. Just my 2 cents.
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  • victorlvlb
    It has the grenade launcher,and some other stuff.I've been told I can change out the clip and install a twenty round clip, is this true?

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  • zipperzap
    Only problem with Yugo SKSs is that their barrels aren't very good/hard. They tend to wear out faster than the Russians, or the other Eastern bloc SKSs. Back in the late 40s and fifties, when they were made, Stalin didn't export chrome to Tito, Yugoslavia's dictator - they had a rather heated falling out in the 40s. Thus the softer barrels and the cheaper prices. Plinking's fine but if I was going to buy a more serious SKS, I'd go for the Russian or Albanian. smysks.jpg
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  • nmyers
    I was at a East Coast gun show yesterday, & dealer prices for them were $105-295, & there were a lot of the $105 ones. You should be able to swap the mag for a 20 rd, but all the replacement mags are generic, so you take your chances.

    Keep in mind, the Yugos are the heaviest of the SKS's (compensation for inferior materials). You won't be able to fire it until you take it apart down to the last itty bitty spring, & clean out all the grease.

    Neal
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  • boeboe
    It would seem to me a critical factor you have not mentioned is condition. Dealer's cost on an "as new" 59/66 is $140 to $160 without shipping considered. Dealer's cost on a well used one is generally around $100 bucks, or a bit less, plus the shipping.

    Maybe you could find a dealer who would order one for you, and only charge you $10 or $20 bucks for the transfer, plus shipping. Buy even if you do that, you are not going to save much over the price you stated. Say you get a "new" one for $140, add the $20 transfer fee, then another $10 shipping. That's $170. Then you take that one, go out and put a single round for it, and it's now "used" and only worth the $130-$150 you would pay for a used one anyway. Kinda like buying a new car off the lot, instant depreciation.

    The Chinese box magazines are not "after market", they are quality mags, but it may (probably) take some fitting. I don't know if you were talking about the cheap after market mags or not. If it was me, I'd go with the Chicom 20 round box, if you wanted the extra capacity.

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  • victorlvlb
    I was on my way out the door to buy the Yogo sks until you all posted.What a let down to hear that the barrel is of inferior quality.The sks seems to be new ,and it has been cleaned up a bit.I do value mark christian's judgement calls.nmyers comment on the weight of the barrel hit home.When I handled the rifle it did seem heavy.zipperzap's comment on the barrel made me sit down and think it over.I'm in no hurry.Thanks for you advise.

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  • zipperzap
    Sorry to take the steam out of your engine, sonny, BUT there are SO many of them flying around nowadays that you'd might as well get one that is worth the $$$ - even if it's just a few bucks.

    ... but then agin ... IF your goin ta treat it like a dirty rotten critter, anyways ... kickin it around and droppin it in tha mud ... an' using it fer a hammer on tha trail ... well ... then, it's worth tha hunerdana half ... maybe, sorta!

    Happy huntin'![:D]
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  • victorlvlb
    Oh well sometimes chicken sometimes feathers. I thought the parts on the Yogo's were machined and not stamped, an that was a plus.But if the barrel is going to give me problems then its back to square one.I have no use for the bayonet or the grenade launcher. Infact I don't really need a plinker, I have a few 22's and a few 22 mags. I just thought it might be fun to shoot.Thanks again for your advise.

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  • zipperzap
    'welcome!
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  • Frogbert
    I don't know where my good buddy got that "soft barrel" info on the Yugo (Yugoslavian) SKS. They are listed as some of the best SKS's
    ever made. Check the bore to see if the rifling is good and the bore shiney, if it is, and the rest of the rifle is in good shape, and you clean it properly after you shoot it, it will last a long, long time.
    The receivers are milled and fire control parts are machined and heat treated, and the barrels, though not chrome-lined are from quality steel and are threaded, not pinned, to the receiver. One hell of a deal for $150.00.
    The twenty round, quick-change-out mags are hard to use, but can be made to work if you know how. Best advise is to stay with the
    factory 10 round mag, and learn to be fast with stripper clips. I have loaded 10 rounds off a stripper clip and chambered a round ready to fire in less than 4 seconds.

    Frog.

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  • mark christian
    Huh? I don't know where zipper is getting his information but other than the falling out with Stalin (that part is true) the issue of Chrome is nonsense since Yugoslavia was the principal produder of minerals in the Balkans. Iron ore, antimony, chrome, manganese, lead, zinc, aluminum, it is all there and in such quantites that Tito made a nice profit exporting it to Italy and West Germany, both of whom represented 27% of Yugoslavia's export market. A full 15% of the countries exports used to consist of non ferrous metals, iron, steel and machine tools and transport equipment (which need top quality steel) made up another 25% of exports. At the time these SKS carbines were produced a full 40% of foreign trade came from minerals, steel, and items produced from them (which included a lot of weapons). I have traveled to Yugoslavia several times and the weapons that are produced at Zastava are not junk by any stretch of the imagination! The reason that the barrels were not chromed is because the Yugoslavs were amoung the first to produce 7.62X39mm ammo with non corrosive priming at their Igman factory in Bosnia so chromed bores were not needed. Yugoslavia was non aligned so they were not expecting to use Warsaw Pact corrosive ammo unless for some reason their neighbors the Bulgarians decided to give them some freebies (the two countries dislike each other) or the Soviets had a change of heart and wanted to kiss and make up (fat chance of that happening). Finland did not chrome the barrels on their Valmet rifles for the same reason, their ammo was non corrosive. These are nice rifles with some unusual features and the price is right. I have three and I don't purchase crap...sonny!
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    "Nothing can ever be made 'idiot proof' because idiots are simply too clever"!
    Mark T. Christian
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  • victorlvlb
    Look I was born in 44 that's 1944.So why are you all calling me sonny?Well anyway should I buy the rifle or not?The sale ends wednesday?

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  • mark christian
    I beleive that Zipper is the kind of guy who likes to call everybody sonny no matter what their age! Don't let his comments turn you against the Yugoslavian SKS rifles as they are an excellent buy for the money.

    "Nothing can ever be made 'idiot proof' because idiots are simply too clever"!
    Mark T. Christian
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  • boeboe
    You know, it wasn't that many years, there was nothing anyone could say that was good about the Chicom SKS, or Chicom AK47, for that matter. Then, when they were all gone (only in private hands) they were suddenly one of the best SKS's or AK47's ever made. The same thing is going to happen here, with the Yugo. Frankly, it's hard for me to believe that anyone could consider the Chicom rifles superior to the Yugo. Give it a couple or three years, the Yugo will have an excellent reputation.

    To err is human, to moo is bovine.
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  • dandy
    If it is new/unissued that is a fair price. I have one and love shooting it. It is accurate, fun to shoot and ammo is fairly inexspensive(cheap). If you get it, tear it down well amd clean off all the cosmoline. There are several internet sites about cleaning and tearing it down and putting it back together. One word of advise, keep the 10 round mag, from what I have seen most people have problems with the higher caps jamming. I believe these are well made rifles and should last a long time, and for the price are hard to beat. One thing for sure there ain't gonna be another Yugoslavia. Dandy
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  • Frogbert
    To Victorlvlb,

    Mark wasn't calling you "sonny". His remark was directed at zipperzap
    who is the only poster in this thread that has his information mixed up.

    Here are two links with solid educational benefits:

    http://www.simonov.net/

    http://www.ak-47.net/

    The Yugo with all matching serial no.s is a gun collector's dream since they have been rated C&R. And for practical purposes, they are very reliable, well-made semi-automatic military rifles. You do need to download some field stripping and operational information, though,
    and can find that surfing the Simonov rifle sight. Even the U.S. Army has issued an SKS instruction manual. I have a number of Yugo's and can dissassemble one as recommended for cleaning and reassemble it in less than 3 minutes.

    One tip to prevent slamfires: Soak the bolt in mineral spirits or diesel or kerosene for a few minutes, and blow it out (the firing pin chamber within the bolt) with compressedd air until the firing pin floats freely. Soak the trigger group (don't dissassemble it) as well, and blow it out real good. Getting all the cosmoline out of the rifle is required before firing it.

    Frog.
    P.S. If the one you're looking at has a questionable bore, get an unissued one from Atlantic Firearms on Gunbroker.com before they disappear.

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  • matwor
    Here is another helpful link for tearing down your SKS.

    http://will.mylanders.com/shot/sks/one.php3

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  • zipperzap
    Sorry Victor - I did call you sonny - in jest - you seem to be a year older than I!

    OK, Pops, I actually researched the Yugo pretty exhaustively - seems that Mark and Frog are not quite correct - according toi my sources. I read about the lack of chrome being attributed to the Stalin/Tito spat on quite a few Yugo sites before I picked up my '54 Russian (Tula) and '79 Umgramsh, Albanian.

    With due respect, Frogbert & Mark Christian I've spent an hour reviewing my research. Here's a reliable source for you:
    http://www.surplusrifle.com/sks/index.asp

    Here's the quote:
    "The main difference between other SKS rifles and the Yugoslav versions is that the bores of the Yugo versions were not chrome plated--Yugoslavia has no significant native chromium ore deposits, chromium was expensive to purchase and Yugoslavia's? relationship with the USSR (a major chromium ore exporter) since 1948 was lukewarm at best. One reason Yugo SKS rifles (in fact all Yugoslav small arms seem "beefier") is because Yugoslav cartridges are much "hotter" loads than other similar "East Bloc" ammo, plus since Yugoslavia's manufacturing capacity was relatively limited, each weapon had to be more durable."

    I'm not sure where you got your info.

    Ball's in your court! [:D]
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  • zipperzap
    mark christian
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    "I believe that Zipper is the kind of guy who likes to call everybody sonny no matter what their age!"

    I just read this thread again and what a HELLAVA thing to say!

    I don't know you - nor do I want to know you. You're a little too arrogant for my taste. I'd ask you to try to restrain yourself about commenting on what you "believe" when it pertains to the "kind of guy" I am, what I like and don't like - but I imagine it's going to be far too difficult for you to comply or even to comprehend!

    To the others here, who I don't know, I offer you my apologies.
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