30-06 question
I shoot a .300 mag for deer/elk ( 165 for deer 200 for elk ) but it looks like my wife may be going elk hunting w/me next year she's not a bigun 5 2 about130 and was thinking about something like a rem 700 adl (youth) in 30-06......believe it or not I've never shot an 06 and was wondering if the kick is too much....only other thing she shoots is a savage youth .243 an like the youth version it fits her better. Also, was thinking about a .270but thought that might be a little on the weak side if we're talking about a big bull elk....your guys's thoughts?
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Why not try some lighter loads in you .300 and see if she can handle the recoil. Have her shoot it offhand. Bench shooting anything has a LOT more recoil. You could load up some 165 Noslers to around 30-06 velocity and let her try it. 0 -
Hi,
You need to read the current thread titles ".30-06 outdated?"
It has some relevant information for you.
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Heavyiron[8D]
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Also you need to consider how well your wife can shoot any of the guns mentioned. A .243 or 7mm-08 bullet in the right place is worlds better than a .300 or .30-06 bullet in the wrong place. If your wife is afraid of her gun she won't shoot well. Elk have been brought down by little deer cartridges. Just make sure to use a well constructed bullet. 0 -
Last I checked hunters were still taking elk with archery equipment. I would think that any rifle would work too. Personally I use a 30-06, and a .308 Win for all of my hunting. I use a 150gr Barnes TSX in both calibers and have been very impressed with the performance. I would even use the 308 on a big bull if given the chance.
Also my friend, who I load for, uses a 270 Win every year on elk and has had 9 one shot kills. It is not too small.0 -
A .270 is definetly enough, I know from experience, and I am pretty sure a well placed shot with the 243 she is already shooting would probably do the trick. 0 -
I would work up some max loads with a Barnes X bullet in her 243 and have her practice practice practice. I have a lightweight 30/06 that I use for Elk hunting with 180 grain bullets going 2800 fps and I must admit it is punishingin the recoil department, if she were shooting it she would never hunt again. Many people will disagree with me but have her use that 243 and load it with the right bullets and she will do fine. In my honest opinion I wouldn't think of any other bullet for the job than the Barnes X. By the way my brother killed a cow elk this year (BIG) at 300 yards with a 257 Roberts shooting 100 grain bullets ( very similar to a 243) one shot broke the shoulder and nearly exited the far side, she tumbled down the hill and it was over. 0 -
In additon to size of cartridge, size of rifle should be considered. since you'd be wanting the gun as smell as possible, I'd suggest going with a 308, rather than an 30-06, since the performance is very similar, but the action of the 308 is the short, versus the long action. By shortening the action, the balance point is shifted, allowing the barrel to end sooner, for the same length. If you handload, I'd also recommend doing what I do with a 308 that I use for graduates of my DFW Hunter Education class- loand them down to about 30-30 levels to introduce them to the gun, then work-up a step at a time, til they've gotten up to full power loads, and have done so without developing the bad habits associated with recoil. 0 -
I've found that people FLINCH more at the BENCH, because the recoil and sound seem more intense - a mental thing. When you shoot at the big bull, one hardly ever feels the recoil - too much excitement. Therefore, when sighting-in, I set up the gun to minimize recoil and sound. I have the recoil dampened by having the gun butt firmly against a leather bag filled with lead shot - 15# worth. Also, I make certain there is complete eye and hear protection as well. The shooter essentially feels nothing, because the recoil is completely absorbed by the lead shot, and flinching doesn't develop. With this approach, your wife may be fine with a 300 WMag. If not, 30-06 will work on elk, but I wouldn't go lower - elk don't die easily, especially at long range. Try Hornady Light Magnum ammo for the '06 if you go that route (ie., their SST 165 gr. clocks at 3015 fps - I've checked it). 0 -
[8D]Yo Ackley Improveduser, I don't know what your experience is, but with any rifle-other than Gattlings,M60's ETC, any time you change the method of recoil absorbtion-you will change the point of Impact (POI). So the shooter should practice exactly the same ALLWAYS (hopefully correctly). If recoil is a problem then start with smaller cal or lighter loads and work up to goal.[:D][:D][:D][:D]
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I haven't had a changing point of impact problem - the bullets go to the same spot whether I use the lead bag or my shoulder. Also, a Harris bipod doesn't change the impact either. Why? - because I've checked. I've heard the same mythology you have. 0
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