Remington Model 4 Rolling Block .22
Hello.
I have aquired a Remington Rolling Block take down .22 cal (short or long). It has most of the case color on the receiver. Octogonal barrel with most of the bluing intact. Has a 4" long sliver knicked out along the barrel on the right side of the forestock. Usual knicks in the rest of the furniture. Iron buttplate has rust. Action is very nice. Bore looks ok, see rifling, but may be some corrosion near the bore. Don't have a scope. Has a take down lever, not a knob.
Was wondering appx year of manufacture. I know the model span, but not for these features.
Where would I find the serial number? Appx value?
I appreciate all commentary.
I have aquired a Remington Rolling Block take down .22 cal (short or long). It has most of the case color on the receiver. Octogonal barrel with most of the bluing intact. Has a 4" long sliver knicked out along the barrel on the right side of the forestock. Usual knicks in the rest of the furniture. Iron buttplate has rust. Action is very nice. Bore looks ok, see rifling, but may be some corrosion near the bore. Don't have a scope. Has a take down lever, not a knob.
Was wondering appx year of manufacture. I know the model span, but not for these features.
Where would I find the serial number? Appx value?
I appreciate all commentary.
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That's a beauty. The wood looks fancy.
I have a plane Jane round barrel Mod 4 with a take down knob; not a lever.
I think you have a desirable, collectible, better grade Mod 4 .0 -
I am not familiar with firearms from this era. Can this one be shot again? It really is a pleasure to hold. I think it would have been fun to shoot, and I do love the Rolling Block.
Bet it put some food on the table for someone around the turn of the century.0 -
The first gun I ever shot was a Model 4, Belonged to my Grandfather and was his trapline gun. Physically looks the same as yours. Mine is mostly brown finish with no case hardening, and a real rough bore. I do shoot shorts in it once in awhile but it has a habit of spitting back at me.
Your's is a real Beauty. Never seen one that nice and with such good looking wood. I can't even guess at a value. No serial numbers on these that long ago.
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REALY NICE M-4; GET SOME CCI C.B. LONGS (REGULAR LONGS ARE HARD TO COME BY) THIS IS A VERY MILD LOAD AND SHOULD WORK FINE IN THIS OLD RIFLE. 0 -
Great looking Mod. 4. The wood looks like it might have been refinished, but looks great. The case coloring is beautiful. [^][^]
The quick story is the rifle was made in a solid frame, no take down, from 1890 to 1901. About 157,000 were made. From 1902-1910 Remington started producing the 4 with a take down lever, production was about 90,000. They resumed production in 1924 with a screw take down and produced about 100,000 by the end of production in 1932.
If there is a serial number it's under the forearm.
As far as being safe to shoot, all I'll say is I shoot all of mine. You should take any gun that you don't know to a gun smith to check that it is safe to shoot. If you don't want to do that, please at least do this. Make sure the chamber is empty, flip up the block, hold the hammer while you press the trigger. Move the hammer towards the block then make sure the block will not move. There should be no play in the block while the hammer is traveling towards the firing pin in the block.
I love shooting my model 4's. I have 5 of them, 4 Boy Scout, solid frame, lever take down, screw take down and a custom shop job. It freaks people out how accurate these rifles are.
NRA life member, instructor and coach.0 -
RG:
Thanks. That is the information I was looking for. I really appreciate it.
What do you run throught them?
It is a nice rifle. Again, I would like to inquire about value. I may consider this in a trade, and do not want to insult, nor be insulted due to my lack of knowledge.
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These are very strong actions and should take high speed 22LR. The Mod 4
Rolling Block guns were also chambered for 25 Stevens and 32 cal RF; both much more powerful cartridges. Standard velocity 22LR would probably be just as much fun.
Collectors may kill me for this but if the chamber was cut for the 22Long and 22Long rifle ammo won't chamber, I would have the chamber lengthened with a 22LR finish chambering reamer.
You mentioned some corrosion in the barrel. It needs to be scrubbed out from the breech with snug fitting bronze brushes and bore cleaner or Kroil before shooting. If there's rust, a little fine steelwool wrapped around a worn brush and some Kroil, Break Free or automatic transmission fluid will get it off.0 -
I'm not a gunsmith but have an M 4 .32 rf (as well as a NYS large frame and Spanish large frame in waiting to be a Creedmoor or buffalo gun). These are indeed strong actions, all. Moreover, the barrel and chamber are meaty enough to accomodate any cartridge in the proper length. I also have a Frank Wesson tip up that I shoot .32 long colt in as it will fire either RF or CF cartridges. No problems here either.
I'm thinking that these RB's were made in the smokeless era, just being rimfire almost excludes these from the black powder era (not quite).
My Spanish action was made in 1872 and will be snapping the caps of either a .45 x 3 1/4 or the .50 version. 120 and 140 grains of black powder respectively.
"You can build a man a fire and keep him warm for a couple hours or douse him with fuel oil and keep him warm the rest of his life"0 -
I'd like to add that sight through rings would have helped greatly when I sighted in the scope on my (don't laugh) Federal Ordinance M1A. It came with a Gen 2 type alloy mount and with the windage and elevation knobs set at nominal (1/2 of lock to lock)I found it was about 4 feet left at 50 yards. I had no way of bore sighting as it isn't a bolt gun and the sights would have been helpful. Wound up building a rest, taking off the scope and rings and sighting it that way, then remounting the scope and tweaking the mount to the right and shimming under the dovetail for most of my elevation. True nightmare, I hope SA is better with their mount and receiver than the crap I have.
Well, it works now but if I remove the mount I have to calibrate it with calipers or depth guage. .130" on the right side if memory serves. I have it scribed into the mount.
Someone should design a better mount. Mine has the dovetail that fits where the stripper guide goes, the side screw and a front jack screw. The receiver isn't really set up for any side to side adjustments, or is the mount I have.
"You can build a man a fire and keep him warm for a couple hours or douse him with fuel oil and keep him warm the rest of his life"0 -
Sorry, meant to post that to another thread.
Maybe I should take advantage of that AARP offer after all.
"You can build a man a fire and keep him warm for a couple hours or douse him with fuel oil and keep him warm the rest of his life"0 -
In a prior post I said that the RB action was strong enough to take any cartridge. Before soemone ruins a gun I meant to say that the sporters, like the model 4, chambered in a rimfire cartridge were built in the smokeless era and would fire anything.
Never use smokeless in a RB action made before 1902
"You can build a man a fire and keep him warm for a couple hours or douse him with fuel oil and keep him warm the rest of his life"0 -
Nice, I would be willing to trade my girlfriend for it?
Hold on I'm counting 1 2 3....
And $12 to boot!
tobefree
My 1st Shot was a bullseye on Gerber baby food lid at 20 ft using a Colt Woodsman. I was age 5. Been driving nails ever since. Thanks Dad, you were the best teacher I ever had.0
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