Model 88 DOM Continued
So based on the topic I started below how do I know what year this was actually made ?
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You have two or more choices.
#1 call Winchester or send them an e-mail. [^]
#2 Take all the dates you have and put them in a hat,shake them up and pick one.[:D]
#3 Just figure that it was made after 1955 which (I think) is the first year of production.[:)]
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Hi All
When it comes to confirming model 88's , it seems like all of you must been living in a cave somewhere. This is Titled "ASK THE EXPERTS"
LOL.....First of all there was never a serial number 1.
1955 = 004 - 35999
1956 = 35999 - 79999
1957 = 79999 - 82999
1958 = 82999 - 85035
1959 = 85035 - 106397
1960 = 106397 - 116517
1961 = 116517 - 132356
1962 = 132356 - 142917
1963 = 142917 - 1511693
The easiest thing in the world to do if you think you may have a 1955 or 1956 is to look at the tang. If you have a cloverleaf or "three bumped" tang , you have a 1955 or 1956. This is what is called a pre '57 to the collector. Both of these will have a serial number less than 79999. Have been collecting 88's since 1989 and have all the pre'57's and pre and post '64's that were made.
The best reference I have found on the 88 ,you got to go to the book that was made for one gun "THE EIGHTY-EIGHT. by Douglas Murray. All figures in this book were verified by WINCHESTER-WESTERN. So to all you experts "This is a 1956"
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Quoted by Smart Ass "Hi All
When it comes to confirming model 88's , it seems like all of you must been living in a cave somewhere. This is Titled "ASK THE EXPERTS"
This kind of lousy attitude will get you no where fast on this forum.[V] [:(!] [:(]0 -
Hi ATF
I didn't mean to be a smart ass and sorry if I hurt your feelings. I just wanted to let the man know what year of gun the man had. You said 1958 or 1957 OR 1955 0r 56 0r 57 0r 58.
If you don't know, you shouldn't reply.
Robert
Robert V. Reyan0 -
ATF, I think you are the one with the lousy attitude.
Robert V. Reyan0 -
would you like to bring that to a vote.[:D] 0 -
OK, heres Murray "the eighty-eight"
Acording to one "expert", it's the last word.0 -
quote:Originally posted by hidebuyer
Hi All
When it comes to confirming model 88's , it seems like all of you must been living in a cave somewhere. This is Titled "ASK THE EXPERTS"
LOL.....First of all there was never a serial number 1. Wrong answer Robert[:(]! According to Herbert Houze, serial number 1 went to the Winchester Museum (now held by the Cody Firearms Museum). Serial number 4 was simply the FIRST Model 88 shipped from the factory warehouse.
1955 = 004 - 35999
1956 = 35999 - 79999
1957 = 79999 - 82999
1958 = 82999 - 85035
1959 = 85035 - 106397
1960 = 106397 - 116517
1961 = 116517 - 132356
1962 = 132356 - 142917
1963 = 142917 - 1511693
The easiest thing in the world to do if you think you may have a 1955 or 1956 is to look at the tang. If you have a cloverleaf or "three bumped" tang , you have a 1955 or 1956. This is what is called a pre '57 to the collector. Both of these will have a serial number less than 79999. Have been collecting 88's since 1989 and have all the pre'57's and pre and post '64's that were made.
The best reference I have found on the 88 ,you got to go to the book that was made for one gun "THE EIGHTY-EIGHT. by Douglas Murray. All figures in this book were verified by WINCHESTER-WESTERN. So to all you experts "This is a 1956"
Robert V. Reyan
Don't you think that Mr. Murray's serial number ranges for the first four years are just a bit too "convienent"... much like Mr. Madis' serial number listing? Do you really believe that Winchester mangaged to begin 1956 with serial number 36,000, 1957 with 80,000, and 1958 with 83,000[?] I think NOT.
Also, after having allegedly produced 36,000 Model 88s in just seven months (May 1955 - December 1955), then an additional 44,000 in 1956, how does Mr. Murray (or you) explain the relatively tiny production figures in 1957 (just 3,000 guns), and 1958 (just 2,035 guns)[?] My personal take on this, is that Mr. Murray is guilty of the same style of writing that Mr. Madis so often engaged in... making false assumptions.
Finally, according to Mr. Houze (who worked for Winchester), the original production records for years 1955 - 1960 were lost long ago, so "Winchester-Western" (which is also an error, as Winchester never used that as the Company name) could NOT have verified any serial number listing for those years.
My last comment to you, is that you did indeed come across like a smart A*S*S*, and I find myself in total agreement with ATF's assesement of your character. This is just a friendly piece of advice from me to you... In the future, I would suggest conducting more research before spouting off with what you "think" you know, and NEVER rely on a single written source of information.
Bert H.
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Thanks,Bert.[^] 0 -
Art..you got this guy nailed.!!!!
Well said Bert..excellent points taken.
This guy is a loonie... some 88 expert????Didn't even know what magazine was used in a 358!!!Check his profile.
He will probably change his name since he's so offensive most will no longer pay any attention to him...or at least they shouldn't!!!..[8D]
Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob0 -
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