Gun Shipping Help
I have a situation regarding a gun I just sold on Gun Broker. In the past I have had either the FFL or C&R holder send me a copy of the license as a protection to me. I don't personally have a license, The current buyer says his dealer has told him I don't need a copy of the license. He has sent the dealer License # and his address, the dealer in questions says this is all I need to ship the gun. I want to know if this is correct. You dealer out there please let me know the correct way this should be handled, thanks
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I will shortly be trying to sell a weapon on gunbroker. I am NOT an FFL holder. What is the process to sending this weapon to another individual? Do I have to have someone that is an FFL holder actually send it for me? What is required of the person that is recieving the firearm? Please email me with any help at jbobweis@yahoo.com. Thanks for any help anyone can give. 0 -
Insist on a signed copy of the FFL. or do not ship the gun. 0 -
You should have a copy of the FFL on file. It should be signed in red or blue and it may say "File copy only for ammo guy." If I send you my name and a number, will you know if that is an actual FFL number, Or if it is a dealer ffl or a C&R? 0 -
The dealer is correct. There is no legal requirement for you to have a copy of his license and many dealers will not send copies to nonlicensees. The shipper is only required to have a copy of the recipient's FFL when the shipper is also licensed.
You can go to the BATF FFL eZCheck web site and verify the validity of the FFL and the premesis address. See the link.
https://www.atfonline.gov/FFLeZCheck/0 -
eodguy is correct, but if you have a dealer ship the firearm then he will need a signed copy of the receiving dealers license. 0 -
Hello ammo guy: Although state laws vary in all 50 states, having a signed copy of the dealers FFL certainly makes life easier. It serves quite a few purposes when you choose a common carrier. The counter people at the USPO, UPS, Fedex etc. are not firearms experts, that's your proof that you are shipping the gun to a Licensed dealer, they wont go to the BAFT site and verify the license # and address. To insure the package you have to decare what's in the package when you insure the item, and you declare it's a firearm, the FFL copy usually puts them at ease. Secondly if you purchased the gun in the last 10 years or so, your state DOJ may have a record of you owning that gun. If that gun is ever used in a crime, and you say you sold it to John Smith of KS, and sent it to Joe's Sport shop. Well you are gambling that old Joe was above board here without a copy of the FFL. I always provide a copy of a signed FFL. It just makes life easier for the seller. If the buyer wont furnish a signed copy of a FFL, I wouldn't complete the transaction. Regards Dave 0 -
Thanks to all for the replies. I had a friend,who is a FFL dealer check the BATF Reg's on this , while somewhat vague,it does indicate that a individual can ship to a FFL holder without actually having a signed copy in hand. I still plan to ask for one when I sell , but it seems it is not a requirement. 0 -
Looking at it from the dealers perspective, he needs to identify YOU. His bound book requires that, for receipts, he enter the FFL of the seller OR his name & address. So, he really needs to know who you are. If he were to be audited & the fellas with the bulges in the cheap suits found a bunch of phoney names & addresses, he could easily lose his license.
So, I usually offer to send the dealer a photocopy of my drivers license. That usually puts him at ease, & I have yet to find one who is then unwilling to send me a copy of his FFL.
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