Baikal or Stoeger
I'm wanting to buy a double barrel shotgun with out a lot of expense so I have decided between the Baikal 12 gage or the Stoeger. Which one is the better one? Please Help Thank You
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quote:Originally posted by magnumforce
I'm wanting to buy a double barrel shotgun with out a lot of expense so I have decided between the Baikal 12 gage or the Stoeger. Which one is the better one? Please Help Thank You
Ain't no expert by any means, but I've been looking into the same idea myself. Recommendations I've received so far have me leaning toward the Stoeger. Just my $0.02 [^]0 -
I have fired both of these at the local skeet range. Both are not balanced well, however, I would give the edge to the Baikal. The metal edges are ruff but the gun appears to be better built. Finish and wood is marginal on both. Both are serviceable, but if that were my only choices, I would purchase the Baikal.
Like many that will answer this post, I would recommend a step up, but that's not the question you asked.0 -
Can't speak to the Baikal, but I've had a Stoeger Uplande 20Ga, 3 inch double SxS, IC & M for over 15 years. The wood-to-metal fit is great, beautiful figure in the beavertail fore-end, nice deep rich blue, chrome-lined bores.And, most importantly,it fits me, and shoots where I look. It shows some use, but is holding up well. I've hunted with it a lot, and really like it.
Noli Illegitimi Carborundum0 -
I like the Baikal better. I just bought a 20 ga on GB. They are all going to be Remington Spartans in the future. If you want a EAA-Baikal, it will have to be from the existing stock. You can still find the Savage 12 ga versions. 0 -
Baikal is really heavy, but if you don't mind that, go for it.
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I haven't had any experience with the Baikal, but I have the Stoeger Uplander Special (English stock) in 12 gage and I take it out in the field with me all the time. It is a little thick through the handle/stock for my comfort, otherwise it is a great little package with interchangable chokes. They use the Mossberg 500 series. Stoeger is a subsidiary of Beneli if that means anything. I bought my brother a Condor (o/u) from Stoerer and he loves it. It's a tough field gun in my opinion.
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So I can't help but notice that those of us who favor the Stoeger haven't experience with the Baikal. And I remembered that when I bought my Stoeger, I decided on the 20 gauge because the 12 seemed really big-boned and boxey. For what it's worth.
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I've been researching this, looking for an inexpensive O/U. I found a store that sold Stoegers...I didnt like it, it looked too cheap. Even the guy at the counter said he would rather I not buy one than buy it. The Baikals are heavy and wont work for me because they have a cast-off and I'm left handed. The Spartans are ok, built by Remington now but they have a cheap feel. What I've found to be the best looking for the money is the Gazelle. I'm saving my pennies for one now, hopefully have it by March. The 12ga O/U runs around $480ish, about the same as the Baikals.
shane
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Get the one that you can shoulder correctly and get the correct cheek weld easily and comfortably and get the proper alignment with your eye; ie., one that fits you. Next get the one that will hold up to the amount of use that you are going to give it. Lastly, if you have friends that have shotguns, then go to the closest range with them and try theirs; the other option is if you have a trap/skeet/sporting clay range close, then go there and talk with the folks, get their opinions and even try out their shotguns....
I've had a stoeger and benelli, and got rid of them, didn't hold up under use (15 or more cases a year). "Know the true value of time; snatch, seize, and enjoy every moment of it." Lord Chesterfield0 -
I have a baikal 12 gauge. I haven't had a chance to break it in quite well just yet. I have put maybe 20 shells through it and that was all my shoulder could take for that day. I suggest getting a rubber pad for since that wood stock smacks rather well. Mine is a 20 inch so accuracy is so so. It just needs a good breaking in and it will make a great S/S. 0 -
i firmly believe that if remington had not bought import rights to baikals, they would've changed american perceptions about the image of o/u's...they would become like grampa's 22- everywhere. i have shot 6 boxes of 3"max waterfowl loads in mine and it shoots better than i do. it is not a "b" gun. it is not pretty or easy to close(yet). the wood finish is terrible. the trap guys laugh. but it kills bird dead. it is built like a brick poophouse. it is safe. it is worth even what remington charges for it. maybe the stoeger,khan,toz,traditions are worth it too. we'll see whats what in 50 years.... 0
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