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38 Super in Norinco Tokarev

v35
Has anyone some experience in shooting this conversion?
Does the gun stand up? Does the slide spring need strengthening?
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  • Der Gebirgsjager
    I never heard of it---but it's an interesting idea. The Tokarev pistol is so much lighter that the Colt 1911 that I would wonder about durability and recoil. An adequate spring and buffer system might make it hold up, but I bet it would be a nasty customer to shoot more than a little every now and then.
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  • jonk
    I would say 38 acp would be a safer bet.

    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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  • AdamsQuailHunter
    Hello V35:)

    I have one on the Norinco barrels that I managed to get out of Texas before the "Klinkton" executive order stopped importation.

    Under ordinary circumstances, it or a S&W are my "carry" handguns when I am on the John Deere or Kobota tractors.

    I have had the Tokarev modified by the inclusion of a two piece stainless guide rod and buffer, a well as a "Wolff" spring.

    I would buy another Norinco .38 Super barrel in a "New York" heart beat if I could find another one.

    I wish you great sucess in your quest ---- I only ask that if you manage to find two of them ---- I want the other one!!!!!!!!!!


    Best Regards:)
    AdamsQuailHunter
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  • gotstolefrom
    One of my podnuhs got a chi-com tokarev that came with 9mm,7.62x25, and 38 super bbls and springs. I have only 9mm and 7.62 bbls so both of us were curious. The 38 super did just fine, but from casual observances from both of us, the 7.62 seemed to be a little hotter....may have just been that batch of ammo.

    Anyway there are several variations floating around. I got a 1955 bring-back and a chinese copy. Both shoot OK, will never be target pieces,but I have not had a failure yet. The 9mm ammo is easy to get, and the 7.62 and 38 super are something different to shoot.

    I have always kept the spring/bbl combinations together...I can imagine that if you mixed them you may get some feed problems, etc. but I have no first hand experience with doing that.



    If we do not hang together,
    We will most certainly hang separately.
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  • Dean Cascio
    I have a Norinco Tokarev that came with two barrel, 7.62X25, and a 38 Super. My .38 barrel seems to jam a lot. The 7.62 never fails to cycle properly. I've probably shot 700+ rounds through it.The really cool thing about it is when I shoot surplus ammo it has a foot long flame from the muzzle.
    Dean

    If they don't trust us with guns, how can we trust them with the government?
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  • v35
    Is there a difference in slide springs? Wolff only shows one weight.
    I was planning on rechambering a 9mm if a 38 Super barrel can't be found since there is only a minor difference in the bases. One has to cut through chrome though.
    Who made the buffer?
    Have you fired the hotter 7.62 Czeck SMG ammo?
    In Korea the bad guys only used one type of ammo in smg's, Tokarevs and Mauser 96 pistols. However, I doubt those guns saw as much shooting as guns we shoot at the range today do.
    Today people are cautioning against using the hotter ammo in Tokarevs and I'd like to know how to judge the truth of that.
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  • AdamsQuailHunter
    Hello v35[:)]

    1. I have two of them. One came from the Russian armory in Tulia and other one is Chinese.

    2. The Chinese one is the one that has been modified by Chuck Slifler in north central Florida. It has a two-piece stainless steel guide rod that was build on the smallest of his lathes. I will not swear to to it but I belive it to be a "Unimat" lathe. The "buffer" was modified from a buffer that goes in a .38 Super Colt, which by the way is the only Colt auto-loader that I own.

    3. If I understand him correctly, the spring is the same "Wolff" spring that is in my Colt .38 Super auto-loader, which is the only Colt auto-loader that I own. I have never taken both on then apart and put the springs side by side, so I don't know if any modification was done on the spring in the Tokarev.

    4. Chuck is now retired, so sending one to him to be modified is a moot point. However, I would be willing to bet money that the "Der Gebirgsjager" --- the German Bird Hunter could not do the same comperable job.

    5. It is a "hand-full" to handle. I would not want to put 100 rounds through it at the range. I would come home with my right wrist about the size of a baseball.

    Best regards to you and yours:)
    AdamsQuailHunter
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