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What are your picks for the top 5 gun models to increase the most in value in the next 10 years?
vroyce
If guns kill people, then all of mine must be defective....the motor city madman
What are your picks for the top 5 gun models to increase the most in value in the next 10 years?
vroyce
If guns kill people, then all of mine must be defective....the motor city madman
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If I knew the real answer to your question, I would be independently wealthy 10 years from now[:0].
Seriously, there is no way of knowing for sure what will appreciate in value the most, but my pick is nearly any of the various Pre-64 Winchester Models, and most especially those made pre-WW II.
Bert H.
Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!0 -
Without custom features such as engraving, factors such as the manufacturer going out of business, not considering rare custom models, etc.--just regular factory production that has occurred:
1. Colt and other U.S. Military 1911s.
2. Lugers
3. Mauser Broomhandles
4. S&W Mod. 27 .357 Revolvers
5. S&W Scofields
I would have included Colt SAAs, but most of them are locked up in collections, and won't appreciate proportionately as much as what is still out there to be collected of the ones I've listed. Of course, there's the one in Capt. Kirk's attic......[:D]0 -
One observation here. All of the factors I've seen mentioned involved some amount of seersaying at some point. If any of us had that ability, that person would be the Bill Gates of guns at the end of the next decade.
Having said that, I would not recommend a particular make or model. One of the key factors that seems to drive prices for (as an example) Winchester 70's is the rarity of caliber, and degree of finish both remaining, and embellished at the factory. If you find a model 70 in 22 hornet, it would be worth an arseload more than a 70 in 30-06. Find a rifle/pistol that appeals to you and start doing research on what caliber is currently selling the least, and you are likely to find the one that will be worth the most down the line. As these calibers become obsolete, buy as much brass (and perhaps bullets as well if they are a unique size) as you can beforethey become pricey. Wish I had followed my advice on that years ago with my Winchester 1910 as brass is a bugger to find. Another key concern...you must purchase weapons that are of excellent quality and a good reputation in the marketplace helps. Firms such as Winchester, Colt's, S&W, Browning, Luger etc...all these types would fit the bill. Stick to the larger firms unless you really want to prove yourself a risktaker, then take a flyer on something like an AMT Automag. If they hadn't made them in 4 different locations and to about 3 different quality levels over the years the collecting of them wouldn';t be such a quagmire. As it is, they made too few of them for them to become a Colt's like icon, but too many of them for them to be considered a custom made piece.
Sorry I don't have a list for you, but I think you get the gist of where I'm going with this topic. Good luck and have fun!
"When I cease learning...I'm dead"(Me)
"When I was 14 I used to marvel at how ignorant my old man was...by the time I was 21 I was truelly amazed at how much the old bugger had learned in the intervening 7 years!" Samuel Clemens
"History is written by winners"(Patton)
"You get a lot farther with a kind word and a gun than you do with a kind word alone!"(Al Capone)
"There is nothing lower than the human race...except the French" (Samuel Clemens)0 -
Hello my thought is there are fewer and fewer collectors every day . I don't see many 20-40 year old collectors or for that matter this age group showing much interest in guns except to carry and shoot . I think you will have to address the wants of the collector and Good quality and the best condition guns will go up in value. but as more and more of us old GEEZERS kick the bucket I don't see young people chomping to buy fair to good condition guns. Does supply and demand ring a bell? Buy what you like not something you think might go up in value. I know this will cause the flames to flow my way. quote:"PRAISE THE HARDBALL GUN" 0 -
vroyce,
all top 5 will have the "flaming bomb" proof & be stamped US Gov. property.
"all I really need to know I learned in kindergarten" Robert Fulghum
anyone who says "nobody needs a full auto" has never been in front of a brown bear charge0 -
Well, flames are NOT inbound from my pod! I agree wholeheartedly that the best thing to get is the thing you like. I still think you can do that the way I stated earlier by choosing rarer calibers in fairly popular guns, but as you said, there are fewer and fewer collectors out there(thanks alot Jim Brady, you dufus bullet trap!) over the age of 40 that really have the money to do this and the "education" our kids are recieving is a great primer for good little socialists(thank you Kofee Anan and Sarah Brady!) There has to be a purchasing market, or everything we've all stated here is moot. I'm 41 now, and I don't see alot of faces at the shows/auctions younger than mine. On the other hand, perhaps I'll get the guns I've always really wanted and have never been able to afford since the Ol' Geezers (sorry, couldn't resist that one) will be going by the wayside and values would likely drop.?! Either way, it's a pretty sad state of affairs when the left wing liberal mommy humpers manage to thwart the constitution and make something as American as handing down a family heirloom tantamount to murderous intent. Makes me angry as hell.
O.K., I'm down off the soapbox now...sorry for the ravings. In the end equation, the advice of getting what you like and hoping it appreciates is infinitely better than getting something you have no interest in and still take the chance of it not appreciating anyway! Good luck with your quest!
"When I cease learning...I'm dead"(Me)
"When I was 14 I used to marvel at how ignorant my old man was...by the time I was 21 I was truelly amazed at how much the old bugger had learned in the intervening 7 years!" Samuel Clemens
"History is written by winners"(Patton)
"You get a lot farther with a kind word and a gun than you do with a kind word alone!"(Al Capone)
"There is nothing lower than the human race...except the French" (Samuel Clemens)0 -
I'm one of those mid 40's guys that wants/owns the "classics" in SHOOTER grade, not COLLECTOR grade. I don't have the control to "look" at a Colt Diamondback. I want one that I can shoot, but all I ever see in the shops or shows are the COLLECTOR grade. I would love to find an early Winchester Model 74 that looked ugly, but was mechanically sound for $150. I know there are probably more out there like me. I want to pass the history of OUR firearm heritage, if OUR right to own isn't taken away, to my son after my time ends. 0 -
I cant wait for " The Ol' Geezers to be going by the wayside"
CAUSE I ARE ONE !0 -
The guns that will increase the most in value are those that you passed up 10 years ago. Or, the one you passed on because you needed a new furnace.
I don't give a hoot about value increases of my firearms, I did not buy them to increase my wealth. I own guns to SHOOT. If they increase in value all the better....[:D]0 -
Just acquired a S&W 1917 DA 45 -has "UNITED STATES PROPERTY"on underside of barrel -has the "flaming bomb" at top rear of frame between cylinder and hammer -hammer checkering and fireing pin show little wear -swivel lanyard loop and"US ARMY" Model 1917 No 44XXX on butt. Wood grips. No dings overall except on one grip -cylinder locks up tight and shows very little wear overall.Serial# shows 1917 as Mfg date.
My question is:It appears to have a matte finish???? No evidence of blueing or parkerizing as I have seen on many others.Anyone ever seen one with a light grey matte finish.0 -
I have to agree with bpost. buy the guns that you want and not the ones you think someone else would want 10 years from now. I can remember the belgiun browning auto .22 for $149 in the "big" Sears catalog (a long time ago). At this time, I wish I had a truck load of them. I just purchased a win 1890 in .22 short, not b/c I think I made a good deal,which i did, but to own a piece of Americana. The stories that rifle could tell. My 13 year old son is already eyeing my so-called collection so I guess I'm doing ok! good luck in your venture and pass along some advice if you know the inside track. - dirtcop- 0 -
My thought might be a little different from the rest, although I agree wholeheartedly with the above suggestions. The M1's that are still available are getting scarcer and some of the foreign military like the Swiss and M-98's. While plentiful now, looking back how many nice, as issued 1903's, Garands and P1917 enfields do you find and what is the price compared to when they were bought thru CMP?
The Savage 99's are slowly increasing and the Fox mobel B's and Stevens 311's seem to be holding their own. Maybe won't be on Antiques Roadshow, but I think the value will stay steady, even if you shoot these.0 -
The rifle that has jumped in value this year is the Sako TRG-S Warbird. Sako quit making them so you have to pay $6000 for a Lazzeroni Warbird if you want one now. Lazzeroni was dumping the Sako model for about $500 this summer and if you can find one they are worth well over a $1000 now. I made a $500 profit when I sold mine and I am starting to think I got took (over a dozen offers after I sold it)[:0]. Check out GB Item 27883105. This is a blued barrel so the stainless version is worth even more.
Mad Dog0
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