Polymer frames
I would appreciate any information or thoughts on 9mm's featuring Polymer frames. Considering the Sig 2009.
Thanks...
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- fotomatt
Thanks...
...from somewhere on Colorado's Continental Divide...
- fotomatt
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I have no infomation but I do have a thought . Have you ever seen a 40 year old piece of PLASTIC that had metal pins and springs ETC attacted to it that the Plastic was still intact and in one piece Give me steel . The lighter the gun the more the recoil quote:Praise the HARDBALL gun 1911" 0 -
The new polymers are supposed to be good, but I still believe in steel also. While there aren't any examples of polymer this age, I have a Smith and Wesson that is 140 years old. It is all steel and all there. Polymers might have a place where extreme abuse is present, where Glock is known to have an advantage, and I assume the other polymers will too. If it is Sig, it has to be good, but I still go for steel. 0 -
Thanks - makes sense...makes a lot of sense...steel it is...
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Personally, I also prefer steel, *BUT* to be Devil's advocate polymer has one big advantage: its a lot lighter, which is worth something if it is one of those guns you are going to spend a lot of time carrying and not that much time shooting.
A full sized polymer pistol (eg a Glock) is going to weight about half of what a full-sized steel service pistol (eg a 1911) weighs. That adds up if you are going to be carrying the thing around with you all day, concealed or not. For a concealed carry gun, I'd definitely consider polymer if the gun was otherwise sound.
Also, the plastic in these polymer guns is highly stable. Glock plastic is proprietary and has been subjected to extreme temperatures, UV light, solvents, salt, etc, and stands up quite well. In fact, this plastic is probably more waterproof, salt and corrosion resistant than most steels. Remember, some guns will rust quickly if the finish wears off. Glock pistols have been around for 20 years now, and I've never heard anything about the polymer frames degrading with time. So I'd guess these probably can last 30-40 years.
100 years? Maybe. . .I don't know. . .I don't care. I'll be dead by then, and frankly if I were buying the gun to leave to my grandchildren, that wouldn't be the one I would buy!
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Throw a piece of polymer on the front lawn, and throw a piece of steel on the front lawn. Come back in 6 months and let me know which one is still in good shape.
I think polymer will prove to be extremely durable and long lasting.
Mateomasfeo
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I have a nylon 66 that I bought 45 years ago. It has gone through more than 4 cases of 22's and is still in great shape and yes, the steel is still attached to the plastic.
quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
I have no infomation but I do have a thought . Have you ever seen a 40 year old piece of PLASTIC that had metal pins and springs ETC attacted to it that the Plastic was still intact and in one piece Give me steel . The lighter the gun the more the recoil quote:Praise the HARDBALL gun 1911"0 -
I have the Sig Pro 2009 and I love it. About half of my handguns have polymer frames. I would also suggest the SW99 series. They come in full size and compact, whatever your taste and need. They are a heck of a lot lighter than the steel frames and some models (Styer for instance) have heavier polymer frames than some. Go tho the range and shoot both steel and polymer frames side by side and note the positives and negatives of both. An informed and tested opinion is the best. Good luck in your purchase.
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I have a S&W SW99 in 9mm and it is a great gun. Extremely accurate, light and easy to shoot. I think polymer guns are great for a carry gun. Now, all of my other guns are alle metal but for carry and durability I love the polymer guns.
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plastic is for Tupper ware. Steel is for guns. And I don't even want to talk about aluminum alloy.
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H&K has had polymer handguns on the market for about 35 years. Predating competitors polymer framed guns by more than 15 years. Do you hear people saying that H&K are junk? Overpriced maybe, but I don't hear many people calling them junk.
With SIG's reputation, do you think they are going to start producing something that they have not fully tested? Think maybe they are confident that their polymer guns will withstand the test of time? Or do you think they are throwing caution (and their reputation) into the wind?
Take a look at who else is into (or getting into) polymer, Walther, S&W, etc. the list is growing.
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My Glock 19 is almost 20 years old, been shot plenty and still looks like new. Plastic framed guns seem to have aged well.
UV in sunlight is an enemy of plastics so I'd expect a Glock to degrade if left out in the weather.
While I admire a fine piece of machinery, and have a bunch, I'm more of a utilitarian so light weight and corrosion resistance gets my vote for carry pistols and hunting rifles or shotguns.
Just last night I fitted and installed a light trigger linkage in the Glock. The stamped and formed sheet metal internal parts look like they're out of a Remco or Marx toy but they work reliably and show no wear after thousands of full power rounds.0
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