m14/ m1 garand
ive heard many times over that you need to be careful what ammo you feed through these guns as you can damage the operating system of these fine rifles. what part is it that is prone to damage with these rifles, the op rod? isnt this a very easy fix, to just have a few extras around and fire whatever ammo you had available?
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quote:Originally posted by joshmb1982
ive heard many times over that you need to be careful what ammo you feed through these guns as you can damage the operating system of these fine rifles. what part is it that is prone to damage with these rifles, the op rod? isnt this a very easy fix, to just have a few extras around and fire whatever ammo you had available?
One op-rod (with little or no mileage) will equal, or exceed three hundred rounds of ammunition in monies spent.
To answer your question..yes, it is quite the 'easy fix', indeed! But very costly! Also, the mating parts may be prematurely worn, especially the corresponding lug on the bolt of the M1 Garand (it doesn't have a roller). On the M14 bolt, hidden micro-cracks beneath the roller may develop due to excessive velocity. Best, Joe0 -
M1 operating rods in serviceable condition sell for $75 and up so every one of them you bend firing incorrect ammunition costs you seventy five bucks. It seems like false economy to fire ammunition not suited for the rifle and then have to spend $75 for the "savings". 0 -
If you want something that will eat whatever you feed it, get a FAL - the adjustable gas system allows it to do this no problem.
Otherwise, as the others have said, stick with NATO/GI loadings for your M1 or M14 types.0 -
wow. i didnt realize they would get ruined/worn out that fast. i planned on sticking to nato and light weight commercial loads in my m1a anyway. was just curious what the big deal was. now i know. 0 -
If you want to fire non standard loads in an M1 then invest a few bucks in the Shuster Adjustable Gas Plug (it is not really a plug, it replaces the Gas Cylinder Lock Screw). You can use the Shuster to dial in the proper amount of gas to allow an M1 to function without bending the operating rod. Keep in mind that a rifle like the FAL was intended for export all over the world and was expected to encounter wide ranges of ammunition loadings so FN fitted their rifle with an adjustable gas system to compensate. The M1 was never intended to be anything but the standard service rifle of the United States and (after one quick side track) was designed around the US .30-06 M2 cartridge. The M1s gas system can handle a few slightly different loadings and the M72 Match cartridge, but a bent operating rod is in the future for those who push the system outside of it's design parameters. A Shuster Plug is about half the cost of an M1 operating rod so that is the way to go with an M1. 0 -
is there anything similar for the m1a? 0 -
The M14(M1A) has a self adjusting gas system and is not subject to the problems the Garand has. It is capable of handling any standard Nato and Commercial ammo up to 180 gr that is loaded to normal pressures for that cartridge. 0 -
Here is a link to the Schuster Plug as sold by Midway. This is not an endorsement for Midway, only an example of the device:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=699378&t=110820050 -
excellent. i bookmarked the page. ill probly add one into my next order from them. thank you much 0 -
Lets see some photos of your M1 when you get a chance. Good luck and good shooting. 0
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