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elkcrazy
Is it legal for an FFL dealer to phone his info to seller now as well as mail and fax?
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  • iwannausername
    Sure, a phone call to let the packing, etc. start BUT the shipping dealer must have a piece of paper or email image somewhere before shipping AFAIK
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  • golferboy426
    As I understand it, if you are a private seller, not a dealer, you don't need any paper copy, all you need is their number which you can verify.
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  • rufe-snow
    Personally speaking there is no way I'm going to ship a firearm to any FFL without a ink signed copy of his license for my records. I have told folks this on my adds when I was still doing the auctions. If their FFL won't play ball, they can either get another FFL, or the deal doesn't happen.
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  • golferboy426
    rufe has made his choice but that it not a legal requirement. Especially the "ink signed" portion
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  • nmyers
    rufe, you should know better. Read your January 2007 FFL Newsletter.

    Neal

    "Just because you're paranoid, that doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you."
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by nmyers
    rufe, you should know better. Read your January 2007 FFL Newsletter.

    Neal

    "Just because you're paranoid, that doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you."


    I don't give a crap about any "newsletters" or "legal requirements". If I specifically note in my adds that I require a ink signed copy of the FFL license for my records, that's the only way I going to ship a firearm. As long as their priced right the buyer and his FFL will play ball. It's my personal property and in my possession, I sell it on my terms and at my price. End of story.
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  • golferboy426
    your personal preference has nothing to do with the topic which was regarding the LEGAL requirements of sending a gun.
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  • givette
    The legalities (interstate):
    Non FFL shipping to FFL:
    FFL is not required to send his licence to you. Verify his 'status' via the FFL E-Z check (he will send you his license number).
    FFL shipping to FFL:
    Sender is required to receive a copy of receiver's FFL prior to shipment. Copies transmitted electronically are accepted (per ATF).
    FFL receiving from non FFL:
    Perfectly legal (some states have a restriction on this for handguns, etc..such as NY and a few others where it must ship FFL-FFL). Good business practice to demand photocopy of senders ID for the record. Many FFL's will not comply with this. Their call.
    Non FFL receiving from FFL:
    Not allowed. Won't happen unless receiver engages in fraud, or sending FFL ships in error.
    Non FFL receiving from non FFL:
    See paragraph above.
    Non FFL shipping to licensed repair/manufacturing facility:
    Allowed (per ATF). Services of outbound and inbound FFL not necessary. Shipment may originate at your address, and must be returned to the address the package originated from (home address, etc).

    Did I miss anything, fellas?

    Best, Joe
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  • mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    The legalities (interstate):
    Non FFL shipping to FFL:
    FFL is not required to send his licence to you. Verify his 'status' via the FFL E-Z check (he will send you his license number).
    FFL shipping to FFL:
    Sender is required to receive a copy of receiver's FFL prior to shipment. Copies transmitted electronically are accepted (per ATF).
    FFL receiving from non FFL:
    Perfectly legal (some states have a restriction on this for handguns, etc..such as NY and a few others where it must ship FFL-FFL). Good business practice to demand photocopy of senders ID for the record. Many FFL's will not comply with this. Their call.
    Non FFL receiving from FFL:
    Not allowed. Won't happen unless receiver engages in fraud, or sending FFL ships in error.
    Non FFL receiving from non FFL:
    See paragraph above.
    Non FFL shipping to licensed repair/manufacturing facility:
    Allowed (per ATF). Services of outbound and inbound FFL not necessary. Shipment may originate at your address, and must be returned to the address the package originated from (home address, etc).

    Did I miss anything, fellas?

    Best, Joe


    Worthy of a stickie...If anyone would actually bother to read the stickies.
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  • Maalox
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    The legalities (interstate):
    Non FFL shipping to FFL:
    FFL is not required to send his licence to you. Verify his 'status' via the FFL E-Z check (he will send you his license number).
    FFL shipping to FFL:
    Sender is required to receive a copy of receiver's FFL prior to shipment. Copies transmitted electronically are accepted (per ATF).
    FFL receiving from non FFL:
    Perfectly legal (some states have a restriction on this for handguns, etc..such as NY and a few others where it must ship FFL-FFL). Good business practice to demand photocopy of senders ID for the record. Many FFL's will not comply with this. Their call.
    Non FFL receiving from FFL:
    Not allowed. Won't happen unless receiver engages in fraud, or sending FFL ships in error.
    Non FFL receiving from non FFL:
    See paragraph above.
    Non FFL shipping to licensed repair/manufacturing facility:
    Allowed (per ATF). Services of outbound and inbound FFL not necessary. Shipment may originate at your address, and must be returned to the address the package originated from (home address, etc).

    Did I miss anything, fellas?

    Best, Joe


    Worthy of a stickie...If anyone would actually bother to read the stickies.


    I read em [:D] Make it a sticky
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