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223 headstamp id?

joshmb1982
i won an auction for some mixed headstamp brass and theres a bunch of them i do not recognize. anyone have any info on these? who makes it, is it decent quality? i have quite a few more. is there a website that has many of these listed?

#1. a C at 10oclock, J at 2 oclock, and a 6 at 6 oclock
#2. m193 across the top and 08 on bottem(year of mfg?)no nato cross.
#3. PSD at 12 oclock and then made in 03.
#4. just IVI at 6 oclock
#5. nato cross at 10, 16 at 2, and RORG at 6 oclock
#7. BHA at 12, and 223 match at 6 oclock.
#8. frontier 223 rem. is this american brass?
#9 MAL at 12, 5.56 at 7, and 3-85 at 5 oclock. I didnt think malasian ammo was reloadable?
#10 Ik 03 at 12, 5.56x45 at 6 oclock.
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  • babun
    Here is a LARGE pdf file that has many of your answers.
    http://www.dia.mil/publicaffairs/Foia/smcal_vol1.pdf

    bob
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  • Tailgunner1954
    #1 China North Industries Corp. (Norinco)
    #3 Poongsan Defense (Korea)
    #4 Industries Valcartier Inc. (Presently SNC Technologies Inc.)
    #5 Royal Ordnance Factory, Radway Green (Great Britain)
    #8 Hornady Manufacturing Co.
    #9 Syarikat Malaysia Explosives Ltd
    #10 Igman Konjic (Bosnia-Herzegovina) (best guess on my part)
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  • heavyiron
    Hi,

    1. "M193" as in XM193 which is the 55 grain bullet - Maybe Federal from Lake City Arsenal. The jury is still out on this one but it is rumored to be from ammunition that could not pass the military quality standards. Since military surplus ammunition cannot be sold to private US citizens (another gift from Bill Clinton) it is sold as seconds from Federal who operates Lake City. Bulk lots of this stuff is being hustled by Centurion and Aim.

    7. "BHA" is Black Hills Ammunition.

    8. "Frontier" is from a division of Hornady.

    Regards,

    Heavyiron
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  • ammo guy
    # 2 is probably the Centurian mfg .223 loaded in Tune, TN by Kilgore Flare Co.
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  • givette
    XM193 from Lake City is good ammo. The company got around the 'Clinton' regulation by being very creative in their un-serviceable declaration..such as the color of the annealing being a little 'off', or the primer sealant was too sloppily applied, etc. You get the idea.

    Now, the XM193PD is the real rejected stuff. Powders out of limits, brass annealing missing, primer sealant missing, external dimensions just a 'tad' off, etc.

    So, there's nothing wrong with the 'XM' marked US surplus ammo to us taxpayers[:D] Best, Joe
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