Loading 45 ACP
I was loading 45 ACP with 5 grs of 231 and a 230 gr lead RN bullet. Ran out of 231 and couldn't find any ended up with Bullseye instead. If I am looking at my reloading manuals correctly I can use 5 grs of Bullseye instead of 231...and everything looks about even. Right?
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Hello 5MM 231 powder and Bulls-EYE powder is IMHO some of the best powders ever made for 45 ACP I Prefer Bulls Eye and have loaded over 250,000 rounds of it however 95 % of that is with either a 215 grain 0r 200 grain SEMI Wadcutter style bullet and slightly less powder. But my ammo is for N.R.A. type Bulls-Eye shooting Your load in on the high end for target loads but not IMHO on the dangerous side. If you use good bullet lube and proper size bullets .0005 over bore diameter you should have very little bore leading.
EDITSorry I did not get back to you sooner "old farts go to bed early" The load YOU chose can have different factors IMHO learning to shoot a pistol well take a lot of practice.All of my shooting is one handed and IMHO it is easier to learn by overcoming one thing at a time . A target grade AIR pistol will teach you a good steady HOLD and Follow Through. A 22 semi auto will teach you good Trigger control for more then one shot at a time & a 45acp [^][:D] is more fun to shoot . However it is a fine line between positive gains in skill and developing bad habits "Flinching Heeling Snatching the trigger " that can be caused buy just a small amount of recoil OVER what the shooter is comfortable with. Take it in SMALL steps and if your groups start getting unexplained wild shots go back to the "BALL & DUMMY " drills or lighter recoiling pistol. Remember we don't need to push every load to the high end work on getting 100% function . Cheers Perry Shooter
EDIT #2Hello Partisan Many people try all kinds of powder and it seems a new one comes out every week. I have found with any powder in small amounts how it measures is more important then how clean or dirty it is when burnt. Other things to consider is how hard is it to remove burnt deposits and what does it cost per round to load. To me what size groups does it shoot at 50 yards from a ransom rest. . If price was no object I would use "spelling[?]" Vitivori 310 or 320 measures great you cant tell the inside of the case if you start with virgin brass that it has ever been shot and GREAT grouping. However price is big $$ . 231 measures good but leaves GRITTY deposits that can tie up a match grade pistol if not cleaned after every match 240 rounds.Price is OK so this is my second choice. Bulls-Eye measures well the deposits are there but easy to clean and longer between cleaning 350 rounds + Great groups. This is very good pricing per round. My first choice. some guys like CLAYS ETC but I have never gotten the same groups with many of this weeks PET powder and most have higher price per round to load . Sorry to be so long winded but "OLD FARTS" also become opinionated hopefully from experience "PRAISE THE HARD-BALL GUN"0 -
So something a little less would be better...say 4.7 grs? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by 5mmgunguy
So something a little less would be better...say 4.7 grs?
In my rcbs cast bullet manual it lists 45 acp-with a 225 grn lead bullet as follows and it is close enough if you actually have 230 grn lead it will work also. Weigh a lead bullet and see what grn you come up with.
5.0 grns of bullseye =835 fps
4.5 grns of bullseye = 753 fps
231 powder= 5.6 grns =847
231 powder= 5.1 grns =783
unique powder 5.7 =815 fps
unique powder 5.0 grns = 724 fps
I would split the difference in grns of powder between the high listed and low listed for a nice shooting load but thats just me and that way you will be safe also.0 -
Sounds like an excellent plan. 4.7gr of bullseye it will be. 0 -
I personally use 3.5 gr of bullseye. It cycles the gun, is accurate, slightly cheaper, slightly easier on the frame and rails, etc. The paper doesn't know the difference. Also it lets me worry a bit less about leading, though as perry shooter said, a good fit and proper lube and you shouldn't have leading unless there's other things to consider. 0 -
Being one of them old farts, I used Bullseye for years. Now I keep hearing that Titegroup is the new Bullseye, but burns cleaner. Any opinions on this?? Thanks. 0 -
I like Titegroup, just bought 8 pounds from Cabelas. I use it in my 45ACP. 40S&W, 10MM and 38's. It does burn cleaner than Bullseye. 0 -
I have had an old unplugged refridge full of loaded ammo in ammo cans for years and still have not burned thru it all. I was getting low on 45's so i started to load some up in the last few days. Now you know it has been a while because the primers were priced 16.95 per 1000 and the unique was priced 22.00 on the 1 LB can. Yes i wish it were that way again![:D]. I have some bullseye priced @ 16.95 also.
All is stored high and dry and i am going to burn thru a lot of it this summer with my new son in law!.0 -
Hello John W your supplies may be middle age[;)] I have some RWS primers I still use for test purpose because they shot such small groups and Chronograph results were beyond any thing I had ever seen. They are priced $1.05 per 250 pack I have some steel cans I store my Bulls-eye powder in that are Pink 8 pound cans $11.94 for the 8 pounds . I purchased 6 one hundred pound drums of 4831 when I used to shoot Rifle I sold 500 pounds of it for $1.00 a pound and almost doubled my money [:p][^] I paid total of $330.00 for 600 pounds thats $.55 a pound Guess that tells you how OLD I am [:I] 0 -
It seems to be easier to remember how low prices used to be than to recall how little we were getting paid in those days. 0
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