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wvmountaineer
I found a Shotgun that I need info on. On the left hand side of the reciever it has "Springfield model 67h savage arms westfield mass usa". It also has a number that might be the serial no. it is "A467432". On the same side but on the barrel it has a spade, "17x" mark and a "v" mark. On the right hand side of the barrel it has "proof tested 12 gauge 3 inch chamber an "sp" in a circle another "v". On top of the barrel It has a "20x" mark.
any info on this fire arm will help me out alot I need to know if it would be worth fixing because it needs alot of work. also need to know were I can find a manual and parts for it.
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  • wvmountaineer
    My grandfather gave me 2 guns, the first a single shot .22 Revelation Model 100a, and a Crescent Arms Co., Peerless model double barrell. Anybody have any info on either of these guns? Thanks
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  • rufe-snow
    Both are fine looking guns. The rifle appears to be a German type, left hand target rifle. Can't make out the markings on the Derringer? Both have substantial potential value. Best thing would be to take them to a reputable dealer/collector for a hands-on appraisal.


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  • Hawk Carse
    Can't read the markings in the picture of the pistol.
    If the name is actually spelled Deringer, that is correct. Derringer is an intentional misspelling by copiers of Henry Deringer's guns. There were copiers who dared spell it right, so that is no guarantee. We need an in-focus picture.

    The Deringer does not have a ramrod because it was usual to let the dealer load the gun for you or to do it at home. Mr Deringer's shop had a range where you could practice with, clean, and reload your pocket gun(s).

    The rifle is a German or at least Germanic styled scheutzen target rifle. It doesn't need a ramrod because it would have been shot only on the range with a heavy loading rod handy at the bench behind the firing line.
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  • wvmountaineer
    We managed to get some pics of the engraving. The pistol has "DERINGER" (R at end is thin). The rifle has "OBERHAMMER PATIENT MUNCHEN".

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  • rufe-snow
    Henry Deringer,s original pistols had Philadelphia abbreviated after his name. Since this isn't found on yours it's probably a contemporary copy. Many manufacturers made replica knock-offs of his pistols during the 1850/60's time frame.
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  • wvmountaineer
    Any idea of value?
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  • jay247012
    i saw a rifle kinda like this one for 1500 but im not sure about the pistol
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