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shorty-j
Hi, I recently bought a rebuilt 92 here at Gun Broker.com and am trying to find out more about it. It is basically a meanie of a gun. It is a saddle ring carbine with long rifle barrel,magazine and fore stock. Everything is new and beautifully done. It looks like the only original part was the receiver, which looks like it was probably very rusted and was sand blasted and then it was refinished with matt paint of some kind - very tough stuff. The original serial numbers look to have been lost to the rust, the winchester markings on the tang are present though week. There are new serial numbers where the originals were but they are not the factory numbers, they go xxx xx and below them are three capital E's How did these new numbers come to be(other than the obvious - someone put them there)? and is there a way to guestimte the age of the receiver. From what I have learned the saddle ring puts it pre 1925. The only difference I see between its markings and those from my old 92 (made in 1894) is that the M1892 is printed across the tang just behind the hammer and on my older 92 it is printed above the Winchester length wise on the tang.
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  • Bert H.
    Unfortunately with just the receiver frame being original (and not in original condition), there is no possible way to put a date on it.
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  • Old-Colts
    shorty-j, if the model marking that you mention is original to that receiver and it is marked crosswise just below the hammer similar to this, then we can somewhat narrow down the serial number range for the receiver.

    MOD.
    1892

    Winchester marked the Model 1892 in this fashion for a brief period of time around serial number 500,000. I have one that is in the 501,600 serial number range. I don't know how accurate Madis is regarding guns marked like this, but he puts the serial number range where you might find Model 1892's marked in this fashion as 437,920 to 522,162. I'm not sure about the actual dates as Madis is slightly off in this regards, but it might be in the 1910 to 1912 area.

    Hope this helps.
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  • shorty-j
    Yes, that is exactly how it is marked, MOD.
    1892 As this was different than any other 92 I have seen I figured someone would have a clue on a range of years and that was the best I could hope for - thanks. Any clue about the new numbers? Are they issued? A legal requirement of some kind? Or just arbitrarily placed for ID purposes by who ever did the work? The work is exceptional! High polish blueing, perfect fit and wonderful grain in the wood. It appears to be all new including the internal components on the receiver. They probably spent 2 to 3 times what I paid. It did have a couple of issues which took me all of two hours to figure out and fix- it would not elevate the rounds without jamming and lock up was all but impossible on anything but winchester brass. The lock up issue was due to the bolt being dropped during assembly (small but deep scratch in the extractor at the end) which prevented the round from properly seating in the bolt face- took an hour to figure out and less than a minute to fix. The elevation issue was due to the cartridge guides being from two different calibers. I used my other 92's and it worked flawlessly. I was able to match the grind from my old 92's guide to the new one and it works just fine. Well thanks for the help and hopefully someone can answer the number question. Happy shooting- Shorty-j
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  • Old-Colts
    quote:Originally posted by shorty-j
    Well thanks for the help.......

    Any clue about the new numbers? Are they issued? A legal requirement of some kind? Or just arbitrarily placed for ID purposes by who ever did the work? - Shorty-jYou're welcome.

    From what you've described I agree, the additions in place of the original serial number are not factory. What ever is there was probably randomly added by the person that rebuilt the gun.
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