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Can a pre 64 70 be upgraded in % original?

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See a pre 64 70 for sale that states if you get the wood refinished the total value would be upgraded a couple of percentage points. I do not think this is how it works or am I mistaken?

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  • perry shooter
    IMHO original condition is only original once .with that being said I purchased a 22 rifle that had been in a storage area of an older house. for over 20 years it looked brown . When I cleaned it with Balistol both wood and metal came out at about 99% Note I said clean not refinish.
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by Sage1
    See a pre 64 70 for sale that states if you get the wood refinished the total value would be upgraded a couple of percentage points. I do not think this is how it works or am I mistaken?

    Sage 1 [:)]

    If doing it would add to the total value of the gun, why doesn't the seller do it?

    The answer is that while it is certainly possible to make a gun cosmetically nicer by refinishing the stock, in general doing that does NOT add materially to the value of the gun.

    In the case of a gun with potential collectors value (eg a pre-1964 Winchester rifle), doing anything that alters the original condition (eg refinishing the stock), will generally REDUCE its value, as collectors prize original condition more than anything.

    In a "beater" or "shooter" gun with no collector's value, one with a nice refinished stock may indeed be worth more than one with a worn stock, but as mentioned, you can't refinish a stock and be adding percentages of original finish! The percentage of original finish starts at 100% and can only go down from that point, not up.

    The only plausible way to increase the percentage of "original" finish on a stock is to replace it with a different newer-looking original stock.
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  • RCrosby
    The only plausible way to increase the percentage of "original" finish on a stock is to replace it with a different newer-looking original stock.

    Which, unless disclosed, would be unethical, and if disclosed, would still likely reduce the value from what it would have been with the original stock.
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  • drl50
    I wanted a pre-64 model 70 in .257 Roberts because I liked the rifle and wanted that caliber. Collectibity wasn't my priority. The originals were too pricey for my budget but I found a restored one (refinished AND reblued) for 30% less. Now a few years later, I could probably get what I paid for it, but it didn't appreciate in value like the originals did. It's like old duck decoys....DON'T repaint em.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by Sage1
    See a pre 64 70 for sale that states if you get the wood refinished the total value would be upgraded a couple of percentage points. I do not think this is how it works or am I mistaken?

    Sage 1 [:)]


    Nope, you are not mistaken... but the Bozo who made that statement is sorely mistaken[V]
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