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  • Sander17
    Thanks!!
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  • rufe-snow
    Appears to be whats called by U.S. collectors a "1920 Commercial Luger". They were Lugers assembled in Germany during the 1920's, using a combination of reworked World War I military Luger parts, along with some new made parts.

    The markings on the front grip strap are what are called "Imperial German Regimental Markings". This would date production of the receiver to the early years of the First World War, probably prior to 1915.

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  • Sander17
    Thanks.

    BTW all the serial numbers match, does that mean it may not have been a rework?

    My Dad traded some booze and food for it in Heidelberg, right after the end of hostilities in WWII. He got a very well used artillery model in the trade too.
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by Sander17


    BTW all the serial numbers match, does that mean it may not have been a rework?




    Not likely IMHO. Being in 30 Caliber and having regimentals on the grip, most likely mean that it's a post W W I commercial rework. The Treaty of Versailles prevented the Germans from making Lugers in 9mm. Regimentals weren't normally marked on Lugers after the early years of the First World War.
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  • Herschel
    I don't know exactly what is meant by "rework". The 1920 Commercial Lugers were 9mm Parabellum cal. military lugers that were rebarreled and had the parts numbered in the commercial style. e.g., the sideplate on military models were stamped with the last two digits of the pistol's serial number on the side where it was readily seen. On the commercial style of parts numbering the sn is stamped on the bottom of the sideplate. The dates were also ground off the receiver. Careful examination of the curvature of the top of the receiver will usually show the contour has been changed. Of course the modifications would include rebluing.
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  • Spartacus
    quote:What are these markings?


    the first pic is the nitro proof, smokeless powder proofed.
    second is obviously serial#. should be on the underside of the barrel as well and will have a letter suffix.
    third is regimental, like rufe said.
    last pic is the manufacturer, DWM. mauser eventually took over luger production, but DWM made lots up to around the mid 30's, (I'm no exactly sure of the transition dates.
    be careful, Lugers are addictive!

    hey rufe, didn't the ww1 production guns have 5 digit serial #'s and the 1920's commercials/alphabets a 4 digit with letter suffix?
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by tplumeri



    hey rufe, didn't the ww1 production guns have 5 digit serial #'s and the 1920's commercials/alphabets a 4 digit with letter suffix?




    No, both the pre W W I and 1923 DWM made Commercials were the ones with the 5 digit serial numbers. The military Lugers made by both DWM and Erfurt almost always had a lower case letter as part of the serial number. This letter was changed after every 9,999 pistols were manufactured.
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