New Remington hand guns
I am ecstatic after reading that Remington is going to make hand guns again. I hope they are looking at the 1911 market. Also double barrel derringers would be a nice air loom. And there is alot of money being made in the palmers market.
I hope they are thinking of the rebirth of a model 51 and model 53. If they made each of them in a air loom addition and each with options like, alloy frames, novak cut sights, adjustable triggers, screw on stocks/grips to give a variety of stiles including laser. And make the model 51 in 3 calibers 32. cal, NAA 32 cal. & 380 cal. Make the model 53 in 3 calibers too 45 cal, 40 cal and 10 mm. So does any Remington fans have any info to share. Regards James
I hope they are thinking of the rebirth of a model 51 and model 53. If they made each of them in a air loom addition and each with options like, alloy frames, novak cut sights, adjustable triggers, screw on stocks/grips to give a variety of stiles including laser. And make the model 51 in 3 calibers 32. cal, NAA 32 cal. & 380 cal. Make the model 53 in 3 calibers too 45 cal, 40 cal and 10 mm. So does any Remington fans have any info to share. Regards James
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THE model 51 is my favorite pocket carry pistol . I would buy a new one in a heart beat. 0 -
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I've never seen a Remington 53. . .were those ever actually produced? I'd definitely like to take a look at one.
I have no news/information here, but I really just couldn't get excited about ANOTHER manufacturer putting out a 1911, even if it is Remington.0 -
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I am ecstatic after reading that Remington is going to make hand guns again. I hope they are looking at the 1911 market. Also double barrel derringers would be a nice air loom. And there is alot of money being made in the palmers market.
I hope they are thinking of the rebirth of a model 51 and model 53. If they made each of them in a air loom addition and each with options like, alloy frames, novak cut sights, adjustable triggers, screw on stocks/grips to give a variety of stiles including laser. And make the model 51 in 3 calibers 32. cal, NAA 32 cal. & 380 cal. Make the model 53 in 3 calibers too 45 cal, 40 cal and 10 mm. So does any Remington fans have any info to share. Regards James
First gun I bought with my own $$$ was a Model 51. Gave $75 for it when I was 16. Still have it.
I doubt Remington will remake the 51, but if they did I would love a rimfire model.
I think the buzz about new Remington handguns is for a 1911 model. Apparently there are not enough companies making the 1911, so one more is needed.0 -
Remington Plans to Produce Handguns
Remington Arms Co.Remington Arms Co. plans to start selling handguns, perhaps as early as the first quarter of 2010. In his Shooting Wire website, Jim Shepherd has confirmed that Remington is planning to build and market handguns, including a 1911 type semi-auto pistol. Remington recently named Tom Taylor as its new Senior VP for Handgun Marketing and Products. Taylor, formerly Vice-President of Marketing for Smith & Wesson, was hired for his handgun industry expertise.
Remington May Acquire Handgun Maker
Shepherd reports that Remington is seeking to acquire an existing handgun manufacturer, although it appears that Remington's first new pistols will be developed and produced in-house. Shepherd writes: "it has been no secret in the industry that Remington has been 'shopping' for a handgun company. Several names have been mentioned, but it appears the first product will be `organic' coming from inside Remington, rather than via acquisition. A 1911 is in first-production testing, and may be ready for introduction at SHOT Show in January". Shepherd cautions, however, that Remington may move back the launch of its 1911 pistol to ensure all the bugs are worked out, and that the product is 100% reliable.
Will Remington Revive Older Designs?
Though Remington is now best known for its long-guns, it does have a rich heritage of pistol-making, going all the way back to the early 1800s. In the Civil War, Remington & Son percussion revolvers were often used by Union calvarymen, many of whom preferred the Remingtons over the standard issue Model 1860 Colt revolver. Remington also produced popular semi-auto pistols in the first half of the twentieth century. Shepherd speculates that "the small, reliable Model 51 might be a candidate for a revival". A thin, sleek design by John Pederson, the Model 51 (shown below) was offered in .32 ACP and .380 ACP calibers. With some updates - such as improved sights and a shorter, more compact slide and barrel - a modernized m51 design could prove a popular carry piece. No doubt Remington hopes to emulate the commercial success Ruger has achieved with its recently introduced LCPT compact .380 ACP.
History Lesson - How Remington Arms started
Legend has it that a young Eliphalet Remington II believed he could build a better gun than he could buy, and he set out to craft such a gun on his father's forge located at Ilion Gulch, New York. In the autumn of 1816, Eliphalet entered a shooting match with his new flintlock rifle, and while he only finished second, his handmade rifle was a success. Orders for new Remington-made rifles and barrels began to accumulate from the many other contestants, and before Eliphalet left the shooting field, he was in the gun business.
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Thank you for your input. Yea I read Jim Shepherd too. Good info from Tactical Wire, Shooting Wire and Outdoor Wire.
I hope Remington will see the light and brings the model 51 & 53 back. The 1911 market is so saturated that there share would be small. The Model 51 & 53 would be a new market, that would be all theirs. I know many people do not know much about them. If they shoot one once they would be sold. As accurate or better than the very best 1911 out of the box, very low recoil, very light for a steel gun and very nice for cary. One shot and you will have a new little friend.0 -
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Remington Plans to Produce Handguns
Shepherd cautions, however, that Remington may move back the launch of its 1911 pistol to ensure all the bugs are worked out, and that the product is 100% reliable.
After all 100 years hasn't been enough time to work out the bugs in a 1911.
Would anyone actually want a mod 51 at $1000, and made of MIM parts?0 -
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After all 100 years hasn't been enough time to work out the bugs in a 1911.
You'd think so, but from the variations on the ones out there for sale, you'd have to conclude that nobody can agree on what the "right" 1911 is!
I can see why Remington might want a piece of the 1911 pie, given that the guns are so popular, but personally speaking, I can't imagine the company doing anything with a full sized gun that hasn't been done before, nor offering the guns at a price point so compelling that I feel like I have to buy one.
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Would anyone actually want a mod 51 at $1000, and made of MIM parts?
I'd like to give the marketing department at Remington a LITTLE more credit than that in doing the market research before selling and pricing their product(s) appropriately.
Whatever it ends up doing, I think Remington will introduce the gun at the correct price point.
How about an MIM *AND POLYMER* model 51 for $400? A little more interesting? Or an MIM and polymer model 53 for $600?
Again, I don't know what Remington is thinking here, but from my perspective, there is still a decent market niche to fill in pocket guns for concealed carry.0 -
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I'd like to give the marketing department at Remington a LITTLE more credit than that in doing the market research before selling and pricing their product(s) appropriately.
Whatever it ends up doing, I think Remington will introduce the gun at the correct price point.
How about an MIM *AND POLYMER* model 51 for $400? A little more interesting? Or an MIM and polymer model 53 for $600?
Again, I don't know what Remington is thinking here, but from my perspective, there is still a decent market niche to fill in pocket guns for concealed carry.
You are overestimating big green's marketing dept.
They are probably the worst in the industry.
And their after sales support is pitiful to nonexistent.
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I like my model 51. A lot. It feeds hollowpoints and FMJ ammo without a stutter as fast as I can pull the trigger. Trust me there are a LOT of .32 & .380s out there (including some of the hallowed German and Belgian brands) that can't make that claim.
Remington definetely should bring back an updated model. Alloy or Polymer frame, a hi viz front sight, and a less awkward safety so it could be put on or taken off without changing the grip. Adding a firing pin safety would be permissable, although I hve never heard of an AD involving the 51. I don't believe they should change the grip angle (which is as good as a Lugers) nor should they change the barrel length.
Yes, some Model 53s were indeed made and submitted for testing. It got very favorable reviews from the Navy. What ever happened to those tool room prototypes, no one knows. I would love to see a reintroduction of the model 53. Again, with an alloyed frame, original grip angle, hi viz sights, snd a safety that could be activated or deactivated without changing your grip on the pistol.0 -
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I like my model 51. A lot. It feeds hollowpoints and FMJ ammo without a stutter as fast as I can pull the trigger. Trust me there are a LOT of .32 & .380s out there (including some of the hallowed German and Belgian brands) that can't make that claim.
Remington definetely should bring back an updated model. Alloy or Polymer frame, a hi viz front sight, and a less awkward safety so it could be put on or taken off without changing the grip. Adding a firing pin safety would be permissable, although I hve never heard of an AD involving the 51. I don't believe they should change the grip angle (which is as good as a Lugers) nor should they change the barrel length.
Yes, some Model 53s were indeed made and submitted for testing. It got very favorable reviews from the Navy. What ever happened to those tool room prototypes, no one knows. I would love to see a reintroduction of the model 53. Again, with an alloyed frame, original grip angle, hi viz sights, snd a safety that could be activated or deactivated without changing your grip on the pistol.
No offense meant, but responding to a topic that is 18 months old, is a exercise in futility. It would be better for you to start a new topic regarding Remington handguns.0
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