British P14 Rifle Info
I have a P14 rifle chambered in .303 British, serial number W26xxx. Any information regarding date of manufacture would be appreciated.
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Interesting History on the P-14/P-17..
First World War...England did'nt have the facilties to make enough Rifles for thier Military...So...Good old Uncle Sam stepped in and picked up the slack and started making the Enfield P-14 in the British 303 Caliber....Then We got into the fray and discovered that We could'nt supply our own Rifles in quantity...So WE (the U.S.A) tooled up and started Cranking out the P-14 and Rechamberd the Rifle to 30-03/06 and called it the P-17 and issued these rifles to our own troops..I have a Remington P-17 in 06 Cal., Heavy Rascal, Kicks like a Mule and keeps a 6" Group 75 yards...
These Rifles are becoming scarce...If You have one...Don't Bubba Ize it..Leave stock if at all possible.....0 -
The P14 was standardized in 1914 but production in the USA did not get started until January 1916. By April 1917 the British had caught up on production of SMLEs that they preferred and cancelled orders for more P14s. The Winchester, Remington, and Eddystone machinery was turning out 1917 .30-06s by August 1917.
So your rifle was made (by Winchester from the W serial number) in 1916 or early 1917. I don't know if there are records that would tie it down any closer than that 15 month span during which all 1.2 million P14s were manufactured.
Some of the things I found whilst googling this one around were:
The volley sights were removed when the P14s were put into reserve by the British.
The US designation for the .30-06 version is US Rifle, .30 caliber, Model of 1917. P17 or Pattern 17 is British terminology not applicable to USGI.0 -
Captain:
Is the Remington P-17 also referred to as the Remington/Eddystone Model of 1917?
I have an Eddystone in 30-06 and find it kicks about the same as an 03, probably a little less, as it is a heavier rifle.
The NO. 4, MK 2 in .303, however, always leaves a bit of a bruise on my shoulder. Never understood the convex butt plate.
bk0331:
As Captkirk noted, for value, do not touch the rifle, including the stock, finish, etc. I have no experience with the P-14, but the value of the Model of 1917 seems to have doubled in the past couple of years if in original military configuration.0 -
I have no plans to mess with the rifle, as it is in very good condition. The bluing looks great, the bore is clean, and there aren't many dings in the stock. The only thing wrong with it is the volley sight is missing.
Thanks, guys.0 -
GUNPARTSCORP.COM HAD VOLLY SIGHTS FOR THESE (AT LEAST THEY DID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO). I CAN POST PIX'S OF THEM IF YOU LIKE 0 -
Some more info... it was based on the P13, a .276" caliber weapon that burned out its throat too fast but otherwise was a good weapon. Development might have continued but with the outbreak of war, Britain quickly converted the otherwise existing production line to .303 and started cranking them out... and then subcontracted many to the USA. 0
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