Is it the same?
Rem website says the internal working of the 870 Express are the same as the Wingmaster.
The difference (besides a lot of $$$) is wood grades and finish,I guess?
What does your experience with both say?
The difference (besides a lot of $$$) is wood grades and finish,I guess?
What does your experience with both say?
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I've shot both-alot. I hate it when I put a scratch, dent, nick in my Wingmaster. My express never fails me but it is an ugly, scarred, well used gun. The action on the Wingmaster seems to work smoother and therefore faster. Depends what you want. Looks, for a few dollars more, or something you're not afraid to use. 0 -
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1) Fit
2) Buffing/Polish (or lack thereof). Cripes, Remington must abrasive blast these w/ 24 grit media.
When 1st released in the '80s, we used to joke about the "fine threads" cut onto the exterior of 870 Express barrels.0 -
Thanks to you both.Good points from each of you.
b0400879, I agree about the roughness of the Express and not worrying about a scratch. I swear, unless I carry my guns to wherever i am going to shoot em an have them sheathed, I always seem to scratch em somehow. can get downrite frustrating!
lkannes
Wrote:When 1st released in the '80s, we used to joke about the "fine threads" cut onto the exterior of 870 Express barrels.
What do you mean exactly?0 -
quote:Originally posted by thatldo
Thanks to you both.Good points from each of you.
b0400879, I agree about the roughness of the Express and not worrying about a scratch. I swear, unless I carry my guns to wherever i am going to shoot em an have them sheathed, I always seem to scratch em somehow. can get downrite frustrating!
lkannes
Wrote:When 1st released in the '80s, we used to joke about the "fine threads" cut onto the exterior of 870 Express barrels.
What do you mean exactly?
Wasn't part of my response but I think what was meant was the tooling marks left on the outside of the barrel. Small grooves left from the turning process. On a Wingmaster the metal is polished smooth. As far as how they function, there is basically no difference. As I said earlier, the Wingmaster will probably seem "smoother" when the action is cycled. I have shot skeet with both and the Wingmaster seems "quicker."0 -
Besides the obvious lower quality metal/wood finish, Birch rather than Walnut furniture, plastic trigger plate assembly, chromed bolt and the 'dimpled' magazine retention design, Remington is able to offer the Express at a lower price due to use of several metal injection molded (MIM) internal parts.
Even the extractors on Express guns are MIM'ed. On Wingmaster and Police models they're machined items.0 -
Thanks all.
Seems if I want to get a rugged, don't care if it gets rained on or knocked around field gun, the Express will do the job.
Remember Mom's or Grandma's dining room table or what ever piece of furniture it may have been, that was made to be looked at and when it was used, it was like walking on thin ice, for fear scratching or hurting it?0
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