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pre 64 30-30 winchester

riflemike
I am being offered one 1957 dated

400.00 a good deal. its excellent
thanks
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  • Floyd58523
    If all original buy it as fast as you can.
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  • beantownshootah
    Yes, good price.

    By the way (with respect to your signature), you can't "bear arms" without ammunition, so I would argue that ammunition IS protected by the second amendment.

    The US Supreme court has also famously recognized that "the power to tax is the power to destroy" so prohibitively high taxes on ammunition are probably unconstitutional.
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  • riflemike
    Here is a pic of gun I will be getting tomorrow 1957 dated Winchester

    Its not very detailed but looks good to me

    trailer_001_1_.jpg
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  • GuvamintCheese
    stock has been drilled for sling mount, but if that is all that is wrong its still a buy.
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  • riflemike
    so how bad does that hurt the value? 100.00 200.00 500.00
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  • He Dog
    About 20% generally, so on a $400 rifle, it would have been $500 theoretically. Depending upon condition other wise, which is hard to tell from the photo, $500 - $600 would get the average original pre-64, better condition higher.
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  • riflemike
    Ok school me This one has a sling mount and is doing pretty well
    thanks

    http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=147357522
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  • He Dog
    There is no precise formula. Generally collectors look for peices in original condition (not mint which would be as new). Original being unaltered except normal wear. Normal wear is also a range from heavy normal wear, to spent most of it's life in the corner of a warm dry closet. That is why rifles are usually graded as a percentage of new condition or an NRA grade. Figure the average pre-64 model 94 at 75% or so, the value goes down with more wear and damages and up with kid glove treatment apparant.

    Alterations such as the added sling mounts may well be very handy, and useful to a shooter, but are a ding to value to a collector, the addition of things like peep sights (non-factory) different butt pads, and any other changes like re-finish or re=blue all take a toll, depending upon how much change and who is looking.

    I have one that at some point in it's career was left a little to close to the wood stove, probably in an old cloth case. It shows some discoloration on the forend and a touch of the fabric texture in the finish. That is a definite ding on the value, but to me adds history and a story. It belonged to someone and sort of had it's own experiences. I like that, and that makes it one of my favorites. You did just fine, you don't have a closet queen you have to pamper and leave in the safe, you can go together and get meat for the freezer, kind of like haveing a fine old dog.[^]
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    stock has been drilled for sling mount, but if that is all that is wrong its still a buy.


    +1
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  • kimi
    quote:Originally posted by riflemike
    Ok school me This one has a sling mount and is doing pretty well
    thanks

    http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=147357522


    700.00 to 800.00
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by riflemike
    Ok school me This one has a sling mount and is doing pretty well
    thanks

    http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=147357522


    That Model 84 Carbine appears to be in better overall condition than the one you are buying. Yes, it does have non-factory sling eyes on it, but that does not hurt the value on the late production pre-64 Model 94s nearly as bad as the pre-war Carbines. My pesonal opinion is that it is about a 10% deduction on the post-war Carbines.
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